Entreq Tellus grounding

[soundslikemusic]

hi guys! spirit and barry,

have you guys by chance compared the Silver tellus vs olympus (mini) when grounding just 1 component ?

Do you guys also feel that the degree of tightness in securing the spades into the ground boxes would make a difference ?

I've tried the silver eartha cable lately and feel it gives out a bit too much detail than i want to hear.. Im so far comfy w/ the Challenger eartha cables. Ill try the apollo soon.

Also, when grounding a pre-amp input, do you guys agree that grounding both (left and right) input is better than just grounding 1 input ?

Thanks again.

 

[cuntigh]

I agree that 2 cables connected to the pre makes an important difference but it took 4 days to work. The first 2 days can't be significative as I had to unscrew for connecting the new cable on a binding post that was already used, the third day everything sounded too much on the dark side and less fast, the fourth day was "wow !! ". The 5th day there was a football game on TV, the 6th day will be tonight. I still have to disconnect it for final try, but I'm not in a hurry. Every note is so tight and seems to have a beginning, a development and an end that is much more intelligible, more evident. Noise floor seems to go down again if it is possible. I don't know if it will work for everybody but it is worth a try.

 

[Barry2013]

hi guys! spirit and barry,

have you guys by chance compared the Silver tellus vs olympus (mini) when grounding just 1 component ?

Do you guys also feel that the degree of tightness in securing the spades into the ground boxes would make a difference ?

I've tried the silver eartha cable lately and feel it gives out a bit too much detail than i want to hear.. Im so far comfy w/ the Challenger eartha cables. Ill try the apollo soon.

Also, when grounding a pre-amp input, do you guys agree that grounding both (left and right) input is better than just grounding 1 input ?

Thanks again.

Hi Sounds,
No I have not compared Silver tellus v Olympos mini so can't really help on that. I would expect the Tellus to be better even with a number of components.
As long as the connections are tight I don't think excessive tightening will make any difference and might damage things,
I only use one ground cable for my integrated but dual monos need one for each channel. Some people have reported an improvement using two so certainly worth trying,
Is too much detail really a problem? Has not been a problem for me and just wonder whether you are reacting against it because it is new to you.I find the sound better with Apollo but still get plenty of detail.
Let us know how you get on with the Apollo.

 

[Barry2013]

Thanks Cuntigh
Very interesting and I look forward to how the final try goes.

 

[soundslikemusic]

Hi Sounds,
No I have not compared Silver tellus v Olympos mini so can't really help on that. I would expect the Tellus to be better even with a number of components.
As long as the connections are tight I don't think excessive tightening will make any difference and might damage things,
I only use one ground cable for my integrated but dual monos need one for each channel. Some people have reported an improvement using two so certainly worth trying,
Is too much detail really a problem? Has not been a problem for me and just wonder whether you are reacting against it because it is new to you.I find the sound better with Apollo but still get plenty of detail.
Let us know how you get on with the Apollo.

Hi Barry

i think it depends on the speakers or the system the silver eartha is placed on. But in my speakers i find them a bit having too much details which can be a good thing on some recordings but not so good on some "already" bright and thin sounding recordings.
I 'll try the apollo soon and am sure it will be positive as the challengers are already very good.

slim

 

[jap]

Hi Barry

i think it depends on the speakers or the system the silver eartha is placed on. But in my speakers i find them a bit having too much details which can be a good thing on some recordings but not so good on some "already" bright and thin sounding recordings.
I 'll try the apollo soon and am sure it will be positive as the challengers are already very good.

slim

If the silver eartha is producing too much detail, why would you think the Apollo, which is also made with silver cable will be any different?

 

[spiritofmusic]

Re Olympus Mini v Silver Tellus. I auditioned the Olympus Mini to solely ground the preamp, but found I preferred it as originally thru the S. Tellus. I've ended up grounding my S. Cleanus to the Olympus Mini, which really works.
Btw, just moved from all-Audion amp chain to Nat Audio Utopia 2-box line stage and SE2SE 211 SET monos using NOS 1948 GE's. Waiting to switch my spade-spade Apollo ground leads to xlr-spade ones to ground these monos.

 

[LL21]

...Btw, just moved from all-Audion amp chain to Nat Audio Utopia 2-box line stage and SE2SE 211 SET monos using NOS 1948 GE's. Waiting to switch my spade-spade Apollo ground leads to xlr-spade ones to ground these monos.

Big news!!! Congrats!!!

 

[spiritofmusic]

Thanx Lloyd. As I related to you, the Nats tread a nice balance re warm/lean, just the right amount of warmth thru a fuller lower mid/upper bass, than my sparser Audions. Should be a keeper, fingers crossed re reliability.

 

[Barry2013]

Hi Barry

i think it depends on the speakers or the system the silver eartha is placed on. But in my speakers i find them a bit having too much details which can be a good thing on some recordings but not so good on some "already" bright and thin sounding recordings.
I 'll try the apollo soon and am sure it will be positive as the challengers are already very good.

slim

Thanks Slim.
Now clearer about the detail issue.
Some cables work better with some systems than with others and you cannot really tell until you try them so I will be interested to hear if the Apollos give you a better balance.
One of the biggest improvements I got in my system was upgrading the i/cs from Konstantin to the much more expensive balanced Apollos. I'm not sure what i/cs you are currently using but I have found the Entreq i/cs and speaker cables to be very musical without any loss of resolution.

 

[Barry2013]

Re Olympus Mini v Silver Tellus. I auditioned the Olympus Mini to solely ground the preamp, but found I preferred it as originally thru the S. Tellus. I've ended up grounding my S. Cleanus to the Olympus Mini, which really works.
Btw, just moved from all-Audion amp chain to Nat Audio Utopia 2-box line stage and SE2SE 211 SET monos using NOS 1948 GE's. Waiting to switch my spade-spade Apollo ground leads to xlr-spade ones to ground these monos.

Sounds good!

 

[soundslikemusic]

Thanks Slim.
Now clearer about the detail issue.
Some cables work better with some systems than with others and you cannot really tell until you try them so I will be interested to hear if the Apollos give you a better balance.
One of the biggest improvements I got in my system was upgrading the i/cs from Konstantin to the much more expensive balanced Apollos. I'm not sure what i/cs you are currently using but I have found the Entreq i/cs and speaker cables to be very musical without any loss of resolution.

hi barry, in due time i will slowly try their line of ICs and speaker cables. They are quite dear... the most i can afford is their challenger but this wont be awhile.
i tried their USB cable challenger w/ the challenger eartha cable connected to the tellus. Wow, its a very nice cable but quite expensive.

i will try their apollo soon as well as their olympus mini. currently have the s. tellus and i like it quite a bit. On the s tellus i have their connected the pre-amp and one of the eartha signal from the power cord constantin ddw. its a nice power cord as well and combined w/ the 3.5mm eartha challenger cable its quite nice!!!

 

[soundslikemusic]

If the silver eartha is producing too much detail, why would you think the Apollo, which is also made with silver cable will be any different?

will soon find out Jap. thanks!

 

[soundslikemusic]

Re Olympus Mini v Silver Tellus. I auditioned the Olympus Mini to solely ground the preamp, but found I preferred it as originally thru the S. Tellus. I've ended up grounding my S. Cleanus to the Olympus Mini, which really works.
Btw, just moved from all-Audion amp chain to Nat Audio Utopia 2-box line stage and SE2SE 211 SET monos using NOS 1948 GE's. Waiting to switch my spade-spade Apollo ground leads to xlr-spade ones to ground these monos.

hi spirt-what was it you did not like so much about the olympus compared to the s.tellus on your pre-amp ? did you by chance try other eartha cables ?
im curious too about the olympus. i understand this can also be used on the dac.

 

[spiritofmusic]

The consensus would be that the Olympus Mini box should work on single components better than S. Tellus, e.g. preamp or dac etc. In my case it didn't outperform the dual mono line stage grounded to S. Tellus. But I did get massively impvd results grounding the S. Cleanus to the Olympus Mini than to S. Tellus. And this is how my system will stay configured.
Can't pass comments on alternative ground cables, other than I prefer Apollo to Atlantis.

 

[tategoi]

After 2 months of listening, I prefer a single Silver Minimus connected to my pre/DAC versus DAC, transport and distributor all connected to the Silver TellUs. This way it sounds cleaner and fast, without the bloated feeling.

 

[Barry2013]

After 2 months of listening, I prefer a single Silver Minimus connected to my pre/DAC versus DAC, transport and distributor all connected to the Silver TellUs. This way it sounds cleaner and fast, without the bloated feeling.

Thanks for that update.
Are you still using the Silver Tellus for the transport and the distributor as well as the Silver Minimus for the pre/DAC?

 

[soundslikemusic]

After 2 months of listening, I prefer a single Silver Minimus connected to my pre/DAC versus DAC, transport and distributor all connected to the Silver TellUs. This way it sounds cleaner and fast, without the bloated feeling.

sometimes, changing the grounding cable would help....

 

[soundslikemusic]

for my digital i use just the tellus.. i connect there the CD player via Challenger rca eartha cable, USB cable for the macbook pro using the challenger USB cable, USB cable eartha cable copper model, Receivus using silver eartha cable, berkeley alpha usb interface xlr male output using Challenger eartha cable, konstantin powercord using konstantin 3.5mm to the tellus. So far so good!

 

[tategoi]

Thanks for that update.
Are you still using the Silver Tellus for the transport and the distributor as well as the Silver Minimus for the pre/DAC?

Currently only my DAC is connected to a Silver Minimus. I'm not running a preamplifier, my DAC has an analog volume control.