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Tesla battery not perefect or not bad.

 
Tesla battery not perefect or not bad.

Not sure why you keep focusing on this. I know countless people who own Tesla with zero battery issues. Finally if there are the battery is warrabtied for 150000 miles. I’ve owned cars for many years but have never owned one in which I’ve logged 150000 miles To me it’s a non issue
 
Tesla battery not perefect or not bad.

All batteries deteriorate and lose charge. It’s a fact of life. My son has had the original model3 and in that time he’s lost at most 5% of charge. In my wife’s newly purchased model3 Performance a 90% charge 3 months ago compared to yesterday was a 5 Mike difference for the 90% charge. So rather than 99% giving her a 290 mile charge she now gets 285 miles per charge. No big deal. There are no mandated service requirements as the only liquid in the car is wind shield wiper fluid. My son in the 5 years has driven almost 100000 miles and the only thing needed in that time was a tire change . He hasn’t even required new brakes because driving the car with regenerative charging rarely requires the use of the brakes to stop the car. It’s a completely different type of driving. The battery packs have markedly improved over the years. Previously charging was only done to 80% whereas now it’s done to 90%. I’ve read but cannot confirm that charging at superchargers with a rate of 250kw/hr can diminish life of the battery because if the rapid influx of DC energy. We only charge at home using the Tesla charger at 48 amps in super off peak hours when my charge is only $0.15 / kWh as compared to 35-52 cents per kWh at other times. My solar production during the rest of the day easily offsets the cost of charging my car. I can’t tell you the liberating feeling I had when I cut up all my gas credit cards
 
My wife and I have an S and M3 here. It costs us about $20 a month to operate our vehicles the S is from 2017 and we have noticed very little loss in range. We use that car for long trips due to the free supercharging. My M3 is from 2018 and I have lost around 5% give or take. I drive it to CAF each year. No worries at all. All this dissing on Tesla by folks who never have driven one.
 
I think far to many people are unaware the scale of humanity. There are so many people. Billions. At a minimum you Joe, are part of the top 4% of wealth earners in the country. Your not recognizing the working class. They don't have $30K to drop on their roof. And I personally know 3 or 4 people that fell pray to some company pitching, let us put solar on your roof for free. Not a one would do it again. Especially when it comes time to sell your home and the single largest asset you have is now negatively impacted by a 3rd party owning your roof.
My entire family is working class. You do not know me. We are doing well but I am are the working class on a daily basis. I get where they are coming from. Quite a few want a Tesla.
 
Anyone try the Mercedes EOS line? I have a thing for not liking Tesla. I get most on the forum love their Tesla’s, I am happy for you.

I may get the new Prius to bridge to retirement. My CLK 500 is getting long in the tooth but I do like it.
 
Anyone try the Mercedes EOS line? I have a thing for not liking Tesla. I get most on the forum love their Tesla’s, I am happy for you.

I may get the new Prius to bridge to retirement. My CLK 500 is getting long in the tooth but I do like it.
I just sold a mint MBZ SL 55 AMG with hardly any miles for its age and another mint E350 that my wife drove. Choice is good. . What Joe states about charging costs is about what our charges are as well. I loved those 2 cars but to keep them in that condition and service whenever the light goes on ....you take it in and there is some chassis leak that they say is a bad gasket which is $20: to buy but they have to lift the engine to change the gasket .About $3500 repair. I miss the cars but I don't miss the expense that came with them
 
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i owned an e350 4matic and i rode in steves' mercedes sports car. two perfect cars .t he sound system notwithstanding. no reflection on the tesla. parked in front is an s550. another perfect car. i just prefer the few minutes spent in the ubiquitous gas station.
 
Not yet. I do plan on checking Mercedes out in the coming months. Quite a few new EVs about to hit the market.
The biggest issue I discovered with many of these is the woefully inadequate battery range before recharging is necessary
 
that would lower the driving range. just plan a nice meal at the charging station.
time to leave the thread to ZTesla owners,
 
Solar for personal is ok I meant as a source for others in cities , same for wind farms it’s good for a local possibly but not as a source nationally
The cost of electricity in a given area drives what can be used. In North Carolina it’s not cost effective. My 5k sq ft home all electric but hot water
Is 200 year round when rounded.
I love AC keeping the house at 70 to 67 depending on room.
if this was ca or nyc it would be 1200 easy per month
Am I supposed pay for helping the rest sorry I’m not.
why don’t we have real alt energy for cars and truck and planes
someone answer this question for me.
 
Is 200 year round when rounded.
Where in NC do you live where your 5k sq ft home all electric cost $200 a year? I live in NC and my home isn't that large, pretty new, and I pay way more than $200 a year. I bet you pay more than that just to power your system.
 
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that would lower the driving range. just plan a nice meal at the charging station.
time to leave the thread to ZTesla owners,
I'm sure the majority of people charge at home so planning a meal probably isn't an issue. Even if they don't charge at home, how many people are driving 200 - 300 miles a day and need to charge? One would think that number is very small.
 
At this point I'd only own an EV as a toy. And I'd need to live somewhere that I could park it elsewhere that isn't the garage. There's too many fire bombs that have gone off and burned down homes etc. Even Porsche had one go up and torch a supercar business - which they're trying to keep it hush hush.
 
I'm sure the majority of people charge at home so planning a meal probably isn't an issue. Even if they don't charge at home, how many people are driving 200 - 300 miles a day and need to charge? One would think that number is very small.
Last year I went from DC to Atlanta. 1100 miles. Just forfun let's assume a 300 mile cruising range. Let's reduce that to the 20-90% charging window. That would mean a recharge every 210 miles. Let us also assume there is a supercharger station within plunsor minus 5-10 miles. That is 4 charges along the way. I suggest at least one of those stops could be used for a meal/ Maybe the other for bathroom breaks or to grab a snack.
 
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Last year I went from DC to Atlanta. 100 miles. Just forfun let's assume a 300 mile cruising range. Let's reduce that to the 20-90% charging window. That would mean a recharge every 210 miles. Let us also assume there is a supercharger station within plunsor minus 5-10 miles. That is 4 charges along the way. I suggest at least one of those stops could be used for a meal/ Maybe the other for bathroom breaks or to grab a snack.
OK so first off you did not drive from DC to Atlanta with it being ONLY 100 Miles. I assume you meant it was 700 miles. So every 3 hours or so of driving you have to stop and charge. With a gas car you would stop at least 1 time maybe 2 if one has to use the bathroom and/or take a break.

Having said that yes with an EV you have to plan extra time to charge. Really is that bad that you need to stop maybe 2 or 3 times in a 700 mile trip? Technically depending on the EV you could do it in 1 stop.
 
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