Bob,
Please post pictures of your Girlfriends
...Touche! ...Did you see Steve's gorgeous two looking gals? ______________
Anyway, I like Frank more than I truly hate him; it's just the way the Canadian in me is. :b
How dumb have music listeners and musicians become?
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...Touche! ...Did you see Steve's gorgeous two looking gals? ______________
Anyway, I like Frank more than I truly hate him; it's just the way the Canadian in me is. :b
Steve, the trouble is that you keep misrepresenting that. Yes, I had an epiphany, the same as probably everyone here has; and that experience has repeated over and again, over the years. It has never been a "never again"! But it has been a will o'the wisp, as in, no guarantees that the experience will occur at 9.00am tomorrow -- that's been the tricky part.
Frank
Steve williams
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I thought we are talking "stereo" here and last i recall soundstage and imaging has some play in "stereo" sound. To suggest that by tweaking you can make it sound as good in one room as in every room of your house I would suggest you only need one speaker
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Anyway, I like Frank more than I truly hate him; it's just the way the Canadian in me is. :b
Awe man! You're talking about speakers! I thought you were talking about a threesome listening session! LOL!!!!!!
Tom, all well and good, but there's no need to be too patronising ...
As regards the speakers, they're set up sloppily with regard to their position in the room, in terms of how fussy people here would be. In terms of angling, they point precisely to where I sit normally when having a cup of coffee, and doing other things in that room. So if I'm sitting casually in the room I'm in the correct sweet spot -- this was a concession, mind you, for keeping people in this forum happy ...
. What I'm extremely fussy about is locking the speakers down to a much heavier structure, my ideal is for the speakers to feel as immobile as a money safe.But that position is irrelevant. The sound there is no different than virtually anywhere else in the room, assuming the setup's in good tune.
And don't get a hangup about the toilet, or anywhere else! The point is, the sound anywhere in the house is that of the musicians doing their thing, in a particular room. The trouble is, most audiophiles seem to have a deep revulsion to such a situation ...
Frank
And don't get a hangup about the toilet, or anywhere else! The point is, the sound anywhere in the house is that of the musicians doing their thing, in a particular room. The trouble is, most audiophiles seem to have a deep revulsion to such a situation ...
Frank
I don't. First I ain't a true audiophile, and second I'm a true artist musician; I completely create of my own. And finally, I am free; in my soul, with my Blues, and from anywhere I walked towards...
That could be a perfectly reasonable thing to do, I believe there are people here very into mono :b. But in the music room itself of course you have lots of nice lateral information with stereo, why throw that away?
To repeat myself, all the other "miracles" happen if the speakers are truly invisible while operating. Now Tom, treitz3, may have this happening but I suspect not: unless the system gets to, or very close to this stage it will remain a conventional audio system, high end or otherwise ...
Frank
Hi 5's !!!!
We don't need no stinkin' "true audiphiles" where we're headin', Way out West ...
Thanks for all your support, Bob ... :b
Frank
Steve williams
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Can there truly be "secrets" to tinkering that nobody else has published? Can a Philips Home Theater in a Box be made to present a full-scale believable illusion of the real thing? Could it be that one person on Earth, sequestered in Australia, has done what no amount of science and pursuit elsewhere has achieved? I could go on, but I think the answer is NO. On the other hand, if Frank can find incredible bliss in listening to music through his gear, there's nothing wrong with that.
Lee
Lee
Fair enough comment. Sometimes the "secrets" are so obvious that it's difficult to wrap one's head around it: if I said a swimming pool was 99% water tight (where have I seen that before ...) or a space capsule was 99.9% air tight would the people using or having to deal with that be happy? If you say, "No", then how much of a stretch is it, of the concept that an audio system that is 95% there is still NOT good enough to get realistic sound ...
And a few others lurking in the shadows of the forum here may dispute that I'm unique ...
Frank
Actually Frank, I would say everyone has you on their "ignore"
Not me, but I do skip his posts.
-------------------------------------------jk * Mono's cool too. :b
Well, I'm feeling pretty pleased at the moment -- it looks like Adele's '21' will come good. So, so easy to get slack with system tuning, you just get lazy, feel it's good enough, but it's not. Adele was a good wakeup, needed to really get on top of the game again. Essentially a vibration sensitive component needed to stabilised, adequately damped, and it's doing its job properly now.
So where is Adele? Looks like I can "recover" her voice on all the songs: the drama is that the backing is so big, so driving on many of the songs that the SQ had to go up another notch, for her voice to come out cleanly on the mixes. If the volume is up the system has to be able to generate a massive soundscape, not just a big, but a huge sound, if it can't then the replay messes up.
So I'm at the point where I can bop along to the sound in front of the speakers; when listening, think Phantom of the Opera, not Pop, and it all works. I've found me a system killer, and a beauty too ...
Frank
So where is Adele? Looks like I can "recover" her voice on all the songs: the drama is that the backing is so big, so driving on many of the songs that the SQ had to go up another notch, for her voice to come out cleanly on the mixes. If the volume is up the system has to be able to generate a massive soundscape, not just a big, but a huge sound, if it can't then the replay messes up.
So I'm at the point where I can bop along to the sound in front of the speakers; when listening, think Phantom of the Opera, not Pop, and it all works. I've found me a system killer, and a beauty too ...
Frank
Here we go again ... :b Lol
* Frank, in another thread (Receivers), I might have found the perfect solution for you, really!
And it is extremeley inexpensive and very high-end (hush hush) at the same time;
people would notice and put you on a much higher respect's bracket.
You would regain your true place on the audiophile & technological 'tour-de-force' ladder
of perfectly balanced & synchronized equilibrium (read Audyssey MultEQ XT with DSX).
Can you read me clearly Frank? :b
* Frank, in another thread (Receivers), I might have found the perfect solution for you, really!
And it is extremeley inexpensive and very high-end (hush hush) at the same time;
people would notice and put you on a much higher respect's bracket.
You would regain your true place on the audiophile & technological 'tour-de-force' ladder
of perfectly balanced & synchronized equilibrium (read Audyssey MultEQ XT with DSX).
Can you read me clearly Frank? :b
This society of ours is going berserk with the music headphone (iPod) generation, and the highly loud volume level that kids have to endure, thanks to those bad recordings with constant volume without any dynamic range; and then kids get killed by a passing train because they couldn't hear it!
And that is a fact ladies & gentlemen!
Actually two kids just died last week here in Canada under this exact circumstance!
And the young musicians of our time? Like (I don't even know them);
just check MTV and you'll get a good (bad) dose of it (99% or more).
* The good stuff, only us here know all about it, and it is a very small fraction of the entire picture.
No wonder we like the Flintstones so much with the rock turntables and R2R tapes from the Charleston era.
...Charlie Chaplin and the Cinema muet; just a piano playing. :b
And that is a fact ladies & gentlemen!
Actually two kids just died last week here in Canada under this exact circumstance!
And the young musicians of our time? Like (I don't even know them);
just check MTV and you'll get a good (bad) dose of it (99% or more).
* The good stuff, only us here know all about it, and it is a very small fraction of the entire picture.
No wonder we like the Flintstones so much with the rock turntables and R2R tapes from the Charleston era.
...Charlie Chaplin and the Cinema muet; just a piano playing. :b
It's all good stuff, Bob. As regards machinery for amplifying, I literally have about 6 amplifiers/integrateds lying around the place in working order, all which would have higher "status" than the Philips. None of them would produce better sound than the HT at the moment, because they haven't been sorted out, tweaked sufficiently, and I haven't got the energy right at this moment to do that as a PR exercise.
I am getting closer to being p!ssed off enough to get some decent recording gear, and capturing the sound while the HT's running hot; might work well enough to get the message across ...
Cheers,
Frank
I am getting closer to being p!ssed off enough to get some decent recording gear, and capturing the sound while the HT's running hot; might work well enough to get the message across ...
Cheers,
Frank
3. He's listening at very high volume, and judging sound stage by impact and pressure.
4. All of the above.
I think a lot of the same effect could be accomplished in an HT system that has a number of those 'effect' settings, 'hall', 'music', 'club', 'party' type settings...
--Bill
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