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Great progress, Christian!
 
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dminches

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Keep the pictures flowing. Fun to watch the progress.
 

rockitman

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I plan to put the Herzan TS140 on the floor tomorrow to try the preamp on. I may eventually put both Lamm phono PS’s and the Allnic pHono PS stacked on top of each other on top of the TS140 instead of taking up rack space with them.
 

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If you replace the glass/doors with safety glass then you won’t need curtains to listen. I know people will say otherwise but they’re wrong. Unless you have treatment up the wall always reflects, but usually its a positive thing that adds 3d sound - as long as the speakers are not too close as the delay must be long enough not to smear.

The problem with windows is they sound bad when reflecting, not because the reflect. Safety glass dampens ringing so you actually get one of the best quality reflections outside of wood.
 
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dminches

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If you replace the glass/doors with safety glass then you won’t need curtains to listen. I know people will say otherwise but they’re wrong. Unless you have treatment up the wall always reflects, but usually its a positive thing that adds 3d sound - as long as the speakers are not too close as the delay must be long enough not to smear.

The problem with windows is they sound bad when reflecting, not because the reflect. Safety glass dampens ringing so you actually get one of the best quality reflections outside of wood.
That sounds like an very expensive option over just keeping the window treatments down.
 

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I plan to put the Herzan TS140 on the floor tomorrow to try the preamp on. I may eventually put both Lamm phono PS’s and the Allnic pHono PS stacked on top of each other on top of the TS140 instead of taking up rack space with them.
The Lamm two PS stacking on top of each other is ok? No effect to sound or get too hot in your experience?

Kind regards,
Tang
 

Folsom

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That sounds like an very expensive option over just keeping the window treatments down.
Sure it’s expensive, but the alternative for me personally is never ever closing curtains unless someone else comes over. I would give up the hobby all together if I had to go vampire. I assume some may feel the same.

Christian has views all 360* so I wouldn’t be surprised if a man who buys a hundreds of acres, a $100k TT and so on, might splurdge for some specialized windows.
 

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i once had a similar situation in a Miami condo, about half the room was floor to ceiling hurricane proof windows. I did not want to mess up the ocean/beach
view but needed light/reflection control. A acoustic company made me 16 separate motorized acoustic curtains with black out curtains inside.
I had separate settings for home theater daytime mode,nighttime mode and music mode. One push of a button and the 120 inch perforated screen, the
curtains and the center channel (suspended on piano wire)came out of the ceiling. when not in use nothing was visible.
 
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Tango

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i once had a similar situation in a Miami condo, about half the room was floor to ceiling hurricane proof windows. I did not want to mess up the ocean/beach
view but needed light/reflection control. A acoustic company made me 16 separate motorized acoustic curtains with black out curtains inside.
I had separate settings for home theater daytime mode,nighttime mode and music mode. One push of a button and the 120 inch perforated screen, the
curtains and the center channel (suspended on piano wire)came out of the ceiling. when not in use nothing was visible.
Sound like a plaboy den.

Tang ;)
 

Lagonda

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I got a feeling that might be accurate for Lagonda.
That was the old me ! Now i’m just an old guy sitting between the speakers. :)
 
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Lagonda

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Sound like a plaboy den.

Tang ;)
Like you i was married at the time. To a Playboy girl ! A couple of times they
used my place for fotoshoots, i was very helpful! ;)
 

Ron Resnick

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If you replace the glass/doors with safety glass then you won’t need curtains to listen. I know people will say otherwise but they’re wrong. Unless you have treatment up the wall always reflects, but usually its a positive thing that adds 3d sound - as long as the speakers are not too close as the delay must be long enough not to smear.

The problem with windows is they sound bad when reflecting, not because the reflect. Safety glass dampens ringing so you actually get one of the best quality reflections outside of wood.
I have trouble believing that safety glass has the same noise reduction coefficient of, say, drywall. What is the NRC of safety glass?
 

Folsom

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I said it reflects, not absorbs. Drywall does to a much lesser degree. Wood is pretty good at reflecting. The condition is simply the speaker cannot be too close to backwall, otherwise the reflections are bad.

The problem with regular windows is they ring, and the potentially beneficial reflections just sound fatiguing, and off.

I don’t see drywall in the photo.
 
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ddk

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I plan to put the Herzan TS140 on the floor tomorrow to try the preamp on. I may eventually put both Lamm phono PS’s and the Allnic pHono PS stacked on top of each other on top of the TS140 instead of taking up rack space with them.
You definitely don’t want to stack the Lamm pieces.
david
 

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