iFi audio hip-dac: The Official Thread

Gregadd

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Ok so I can use one of the pigtails. Disregard the above. I will probably have to buy a type c to type a converter.
 

Gregadd

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I am connedted. This should not be a problem for newer phones.. Most come with type c. I have no idea about those weird iphones.
 

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No I think it is the smaller one. I think Type C is supplied.
I feel a little foolosh. I. have a cable that will fit my phone. However the opppsite end will not fot the the hip-'dac. It appears both ends will require tje same size. Does that make any sense

OK, so hip-dac has two USB connectors on its rear. The small one - USB type C - is meant to be used only to charge the product's battery. The bigger one - USB type A - is the one you need to send signal to from your smartphone.
 

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“I’m getting goosebumps just thinking about how well that combination of the hip-dac and the (Audeze) LCD-1 was rocking my world.”

Thank you for this fantastic review Steve Guttenberg!

 

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iFi audio hip-dac: Tech Note #4

The S-Balanced Solution
(As found in xCAN, xDSD and nano iDSD BL)



No second amplifier is used, neither are extra signal, noise, nor distortion added - perfect for sensitive IEMs. Further including the iEMatch technology extends compatibility with ultra-sensitive IEMs. A dedicated negative wire per channel all the way to each channel ’s amplifier ’s star-ground makes sure there is no crosstalk between the channels.

Plugging in unbalanced headphones with a TRS connector instead of TRRS will cause zero issues and, in fact, will still cut crosstalk by 50%, compared to using a TRS socket.

S-Balanced output works on TRS & TRRS headphones

It is fully compatible with and supports balanced wired headphones on TRRS 3.5mm and the Chinese 3.5PRO balanced wiring standard maintaining the channel separation. That is, after all, the point of S-Balanced.

It can also use 3.5mm TRS connections without problems.

‘S-Balanced ’ is short for ‘Single-Ended Compatible Balanced’ https://www.head-fi.org/threads/some-common-headphones-plug-wiring-for- balanced-audio.875730/

We are compatible with Hifiman/LHLabs/3.5PRO/OPPO PM3 in the above on 3.5mm S-Balanced.

Balanced wiring delivers the full benefits with lower noise and distortion (and lower output) than other balanced circuitry and is transparently compatible with TRS unbalanced headphones and headphones with microphones making sure neither Amp nor Headphone can be damaged.

Which is why ‘S-Balanced ’ is so awesome and could only be invented by a Nicola Tesla level genius.
  • Compatible with A&K/FiiO on 2.5mm Balanced
  • Compatible with any 2.5mm Balanced equipped product compatible with A&K/FiiO
The key to the S-Balanced advantage is to understand the following:
  • A balanced output includes two separate amplifiers
  • All else being equal, two amplifiers contribute both noise and distortion
  • Due the laws underpinning this, the output noise of the two balanced amplifiers MUST be at least 3dB greater (1.4 times) than that of the single amplifier
  • The odd order (unpleasant or disharmonic) distortion of the two amplifiers for the same level on each amplifier summed will also be at least 3dB greater than the single amplifier.
With S-Balanced and XBass, we have pretty much game-changing tech. All the benefits of balanced, with none of the drawbacks.

XBass



XBass is there for open-back headphones or just those tracks that ‘miss that bit of bass’. By now, customers are familiar with the Analogue Signal Processing circuit that was developed in-house for our own use.

Premium audiophile parts

TDK high stability C0G surface mounted capacitors - C0G dielectric close to Teflon in key areas that affect the smoothest sonics.



As you can see, the hip-dac really is one of those products that looks spectacular on the outside, and sounds absolutely wonderful because of what it is inside.
 

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Didn't win the Hip DAC at CanJamNYC (BooHoo!!) so I had to order one. Enjoying it immensely along with my RHA CL2 headphones and the balanced connection. To anyone out there with an iPhone, the Apple camera adapter is the only one I have found that fits. All the off-brand ones are too large to fit into the HipDAC connector.
 
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Shortpocket 20200228_111056.jpg 20200228_111033.jpg
 

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Didn't win the Hip DAC at CanJamNYC (BooHoo!!) so I had to order one. Enjoying it immensely along with my RHA CL2 headphones and the balanced connection. To anyone out there with an iPhone, the Apple camera adapter is the only one I have found that fits. All the off-brand ones are too large to fit into the HipDAC connector.

True. hip-dac was designed to accommodate Apple's CCK nicely.

Shortpocket

It is, isn't it? ;)
 

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:)I obviously meant shirtpocket. Although I suspect it would fit in a shortpocket too.
 

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:)I obviously meant shirtpocket. Although I suspect it would fit in a shortpocket too.

It surely would, that's a given :cool:

Also, something to cheer us all up in this gloomy pandemic time :p




How does one get the loaner?

As long as one has a firm track record on this forum, a PM would do!
 

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A nice review on TechHive describes the sound as "sublime."
 

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Can you send me a pigtail?
I lost mime. Will pay of course.
 

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It's a hat-trick! We've only gone and got another What Hi-Fi? 5-Star review!

"The hip-dac is a hugely capable performer with the typical easy-going iFi sound. It’s a balanced presentation that’s refined and free of harsh edges. You can listen to the hip-dac for hours and not feel fatigued."

Thanks What Hi-Fi?!

The full review please see HERE!
 

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It's a hat-trick! We've only gone and got another What Hi-Fi? 5-Star review!

"The hip-dac is a hugely capable performer with the typical easy-going iFi sound. It’s a balanced presentation that’s refined and free of harsh edges. You can listen to the hip-dac for hours and not feel fatigued."

Thanks What Hi-Fi?!

The full review please see HERE!
Having read the great reviews, I decided to get an Hip DAC for travel (and Zen DAC for home use) these sound excellent with my Hifiman Sundara headphones. I’ve also ordered some custom made Balanced cables (from OIDIO) as I understand this will improve the sound further.

The question I have is regarding the firmware upgrades? I listen to a lot of MQA music (via my Windows lap top using Tidal
and Audivana) but I am confused about the XMOS firmware update and 5.3c GTO filter?

I read the details on the ifi website but, not being technically minded, I’m a little lost? Perhaps, someone can explain (in simple terms) what difference this firmware would add and clarify the issue about it potentially becoming bricked and connections via USB?
 

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