Introducing Olympus & Olympus I/O - A new perspective on modern music playback

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For those who just started reading up on Olympus, Olympus I/O, and XDMI, please note that all information in this thread has been summarized in a single PDF document that can be downloaded from the Taiko Website.

https://taikoaudio.com/taiko-2020/taiko-audio-downloads

The document is frequently updated.

Scroll down to the 'XDMI, Olympus Music Server, Olympus I/O' section and click 'XDMI, Olympus, Olympus I/O Product Introduction & FAQ' to download the latest version.

Good morning WBF!​


We are introducing the culmination of close to 4 years of research and development. As a bona fide IT/tech nerd with a passion for music, I have always been intrigued by the potential of leveraging the most modern of technologies in order to create a better music playback experience. This, amongst others, led to the creation of our popular, perhaps even revolutionary, Extreme music server 5 years ago, which we have been steadily improving and updating with new technologies throughout its life cycle. Today I feel we can safely claim it's holding its ground against the onslaught of new server releases from other companies, and we are committed to keep improving it for years to come.

We are introducing a new server model called the Olympus. Hierarchically, it positions itself above the Extreme. It does provide quite a different music experience than the Extreme, or any other server I've heard, for that matter. Conventional audiophile descriptions such as sound staging, dynamics, color palette, etc, fall short to describe this difference. It does not sound digital or analog, I would be inclined to describe it as coming closer to the intended (or unintended) performance of the recording engineer.

Committed to keeping the Extreme as current as possible, we are introducing a second product called the Olympus I/O. This is an external upgrade to the Extreme containing a significant part of the Olympus technology, allowing it to come near, though not entirely at, Olympus performance levels. The Olympus I/O can even be added to the Olympus itself to elevate its performance even further, though not as dramatic an uplift as adding it to the Extreme. Consider it the proverbial "cherry on top".
 
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As far as burn in, should Roon be playing through DAC round the clock, or is just keeping the Server on enough for burn in? Thanks
 
Looks like I finally got it to pair with the phone, after another phone restart, but it is still very unstable even right next to the Oly. Was able to change the charging window, so that's good!

Now working on Roon -- think I'm making progress.
Pls try an Android phone or pad.
I tried. Very stable.
;)
 
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Thank to everyone for their ideas, however as the saying goes, "necessity is the mother of invention". Big shout out to Steve Z who lit up a few neurons deep in the back of my brain

Not pretty but this is the first attempt and it works like a charm. I have a plethora of these packing blocks and tomorrow I'll use a sharper knife and wean down the width at the bottom and narrow the vertical piece. I'm still picking the styrofoam confetti off my floor but small price to pay as this fix was totally free.....Fit perfectly under the base of the IO


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Hi Steve.. just saw this post. You might want to check this out. These sleeves does hold the power cord in place https://www.amazon.com/SF-Cable-Sec...1a-9c61-9b44264d7c6c&pd_rd_i=B00KGERE6I&psc=1
 
I ordered them 2 days ago. Arrive tomorrow. I have Steve Z to also thank for the suggestion

 
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I watched Christoph do for my ears the single best experiment and A-B test of the few days he was here. First off there is no question that significant burn in of the unit is essential as I have had my Olympus and Horizon powered on with my preamp and amp off. The Olympus was playing in a constant loop and each day there was a noticeable improvement in SQ. Today Chris was interested in comparing a track on vinyl and comparing it to a similar track streaming via Tidal, Qobuz or from my library now based on my NAS downstairs well away from my system and plugged into my home router. Chris wanted to get an idea where things compared on the Olympus to that on my turntable. We riffled through a bunch of albums I happened to have in my sound room and Chris picked out the remaster of Amused to Death and arbitrarily asked me to cue up Three Wishes and to play it at my customary level. After some warm up of my phono stage and turn table the track was cued up and the needle dropped. it sounded spectacular, more so than usual now that the Schnerzinger Grid Protector is now in my room. Chris was impressed

Next he cued up from Tidal via Roon the same album version and track. The Horizon was passing full signal with its output at 63 and my preamp at the 6 detente position. For power cords I still had Chin Cheng PC's in both Olympus and IO. Play was started and it sounded extremely good and very close to vinyl with a slightly different flavor. If the vinyl version was worth $1 , the digital version was worth $0.95 . The next part of the test was when Chris wanted to play the same track but with the horizon gain dialed back to 57 (less than the full signal). Volume level on my Lamm preamp remained unchanged at the 6 detente position. Play was started and Chris looked at me and I too him as we both said WTF just happened. The sound was very nice, but best description by both of us was that it sounded on th polite side and lacking detail, Again the comparison wa if vinyl version was worth $1 then this same track dialed back to Horizon gain of 57 and Lamm preamp unchanged at position 6 was now worth $0.90. We both agreed that full signal out of the Horizon simply put had more detail and more meat on the bone

The icing on the cake however for both of us was when Chris said, let's see what the Masterbuilt Ultra Power Cord brings to the table if the Chin Cheng was removed from the Olympus and substituted with the MasterBuilt Ultra. Same track was cued up with Horizon gain at 63 , Lamm preamp at detente position 6. The song was repeated streamed through Tidal using Roon and both of our jaws dropped. It was an epiphany for both of us as it easily proved what Emile said, and substantiated by Vassil that there is a huge uptick in sound quality with a proven power cord. Both Chris and I said that this was damn close to the vinyl version we played. In fact, if the vinyl version was worth $1, this stream tidal version, passing full signal through the Horizon (63) and now with a MasterBuilt Ultra in the Olympus this version was now worth easily $0.98. It truly was that close. Further Chris found a very secure way to plug in the Power Cord which , did not budge with gravity It was the most impressive comparison fore my ears that we did all these past 3 days. There is a huge gain to be achieved with the use of a quality Power Cord. The Chin Cheng was instantly retired. I then questioned Chris as to what further benefit would be gleaned if a similar power cord was used in the IO. Without any hesitationChris said, "not necessary" and went through a detailed explanation as to why my Chin Cheng would be just fine

I would encourage all Olympus/IO owners to try this very simple experiment . It is so obvious that it smacks you in the face.

So also the Horizon has so much more detail when the full signal is passed. Dialed back on 6 click to 57 created a very beautiful but very lean sound, lacking in detail and emotional engagement

So as the sun sets here on Chris visit, I have learned a lot


1. Be patient and let your Olympus play even with out sound for several days and each day you will notice a change

2. Native XDMI is the real McCoy. I have zero idea how it works and what it does and honestly that is Emile's trade secret and his secret sauce. I'm convinced that XDMI will become the de facto interface for all high end systems . I say this only having listened via the digital card, using a KBL XDMI cable and with the better version of this coming next week with my Horizon 360

3. If you use a Lampi via XDMI or USB, the SQ unequivocally is better with the Horzon out put at 63

4. Power cords matter.....they matter a lot

5. USB on the Olympus compared to the Extreme is vastly superior but lacks so much when compared to the Olympus played with XDMI

6. At a personal level the Taiko BPS app is a set it and forget it . Set the charge to auto, and allow charging time as suppled , between midnight and 0700 and youre done

6. I have not listened yet with the power cords removed. Not sure for now that I will but at some point I will explore that path

7.. Please dont blame Chris for being here and not in Oldenzaal. He has nothing to do with building these machines and no one's valuable time was wasted by his presence at my house.. Emile and Taiko should be proud to have him as their General Manager. Chris is a gentleman and a scholar and you never know if he might show up unexpectedly on your door step for a listen

8. I learned a lot about truffles, truffle season and going on truffle hunts from Chris in a totally unrelated discussion

9. Finally some photos below to share with everyone as Chris and I spent our final lunch at my favorite restaurant for ambience and good food. I love to take all my guests there and watch their faces
Steve, thanks for reporting how the Masterbuilt Ultra power cord made a remarkable difference in the sound of the Taiko. Damon asked me to pass on the fact that Masterbuilt Ultra power cords are available for no-obligation, in-system demos to any WBF members interested in seeing what the cord can do.
 
I would recommend to use the stock footers first for the following reasons:

1) We have tested a lot of footers / materials and picked the acrylic discs for the most neutral balance with a multitude of shelf / floor materials. This is not just a random pick, even the size of the discs matters, down to the millimetre, which is why they are somewhat “odd” looking in the relative large space available.

2) The chassis itself has multiple independently decoupled sections. It all works very well together, but you can also very easily undo the efforts we put into this.

3) If you do decide to use after market footers, and of course they can alter the sound very significantly, I would recommend to at the very least stick to the large round cutouts we designed for that purpose.

4) Last but not least, listen carefully, the Olympus does not behave like you’re used to from other equipment. I would recommend to listen to multiple recordings, and even spread out over multiple days.
Dear Emile,

What would you recommend?
a) Olympus on a Taiko Daiza platform. Daiza on the wood floor (over cement).
b) Olympus directly on the wood floor (over cement).

Thanks.
 
...I thought the Daiza was not recommended for the Olympus due to the abundance of copper vs. aluminum in the Extreme and other audio chassis fabrications.
I read that a while ago. Since so many things changed with the Olympus, perhaps including these special feet, so I would like to hear from Emile what is recommended now.
 
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Can you please update this with the order numbers ?

Shipped:
The following order numbers have been shipped:
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 12, 13, 14, 17, 19, 20, 32

Expected to be shipped soon:

Thx
I understand this did not changed since.
Let's hope next week will be easier for the Taiko Team when people get back from vacation.
 
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as Paul Harvey used to say....."and now you know the rest of the story"

A big shout out first to Mike Lavigne and SteveZ and theaudiogeek



Mike's fix is genius so after I ordered the C13 sheaths 4 days ago for my power cord, I also bought Mikes suggestion from Home Depot today. Upon getting home the UPS package was on my door step with the C13 sheaths. I bought 4 of them for $0.65 each. Took me all of 10 seconds to slide it over the end of my Master Built Ultra power cord and it is rock solid. There is zero slip and so far the effect of gravity is non existent. I will leave the MB Ultra in and reevaluate tomorrow but the connection as stated is rock solid. All for $0.65 :D


I would encourage members awaiting their delivery and plan on using a heavy PC to preorder a few of these sheaths. I bought 4 so I will need one more for connection to the IO and have 2 to use at a later date should the need arise.

Thanks again




 
I've had the Olympus powered up and playing / burning-in 24 hrs/day since Saturday night. I'm using USB at present to the Aries Cerat Ithaca DAC and Aries Ageto pre amp. I want to get a good idea of the comparison between Olympus USB and Extreme USB before listening to the Olympus XDMI analog out to the Ageto Pre.

As background, the Extreme, with the latest version of Xdms player software was sounding the best I have ever heard here. I would be more than content to have that sound forever without ever feeling the need for any kind of an upgrade. This actually led me to have some apprehension about making any kind of change.

When I first listened to the Olympus on Sunday, it was obvious that this was a significant change. The change I believe is mostly due to battery replacing mains power and producing a result with much less noise, along with a revelation of nuance and fine detail. But I also noticed that something else seemed missing: some density and dynamics which was leaving the music a bit anemic. I was a little concerned about this, fearing that this could be a negative effect of battery power.

However, with another day or so of burn-in, the dynamics have come back to the party and has produced a new musical level here. I have Roon Radio running through a lot of avantgarde leaning jazz which can sometimes be demanding and fatiguing. I have yet to be fatigued and have yet to come across a track which seems to be poorly recorded. All recordings so far seem very good to exceptional. That say a lot!

I feel no impatience or compulsion to leave USB and go to XDMI any time soon. It's like climbing a mountain, and along the way, finding a perfect campsite next to a beautiful lake. Why leave? Maybe this weekend...
 
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Good eval Will I agree 100%. I listened to USB for 2 days. Loved it and loved Roon even though XDMS is my favorite. But then I went to XDMI via the digital card into my Horizon with native XDMI and all bets were off. Bottom line for me is I won’t ever listen to USB again. XDMI to my ears is so far beyond anything I have ever heard in digital. To my ears it has become the de facto standard I have a very expensive Masterbuilt Ultra USB cable for sale. You can’t unring a bell. Once you hear XDMI ………in fact you know how much I have said I can’t listen to Roon as I prefer XDMS. Roon now is on a level beyond and my internal library is stored in a far away part of my home yet accessing it is simple and the sound is magnificent

Report back Will once you switch to XDMI Maybe you might want to buy my USB cable
 
Good eval Will I agree 100%. I listened to USB for 2 days. Loved it and loved Roon even though XDMS is my favorite. But then I went to XDMI via the digital card into my Horizon with native XDMI and all bets were off. Bottom line for me is I won’t ever listen to USB again. XDMI to my ears is so far beyond anything I have ever heard in digital. To my ears it has become the de facto standard I have a very expensive Masterbuilt Ultra USB cable for sale. You can’t unring a bell. Once you hear XDMI ………in fact you know how much I have said I can’t listen to Roon as I prefer XDMS. Roon now is on a level beyond and
Good eval Will I agree 100%. I listened to USB for 2 days. Loved it and loved Roon even though XDMS is my favorite.

So, over USB the extreme + xdms was preferred to Olympus/io + roon?
Then xdmi moved the Olympus/io to another level?
 
So, over USB the extreme + xdms was preferred to Olympus/io + roon?
Then xdmi moved the Olympus/io to another level?
As I recall reading, Steve preferred the Oly USB + Roon to the Extreme USB + Xdms. (I have also found it to be better, but both are very good.)
 
If the Olympus is "software agnostic" as described by Emile then I would guess that anything played on the Olympus using the same digital interface would sound better than the Extreme.
 
As I recall reading, Steve preferred the Oly USB + Roon to the Extreme USB + Xdms. (I have also found it to be better, but both are very good.)
In my system, USB Roon from the Extreme has a noticeably wider soundstage than USB XDMS from the Extreme, but the presentation is also noticeably less well defined. The experience of music from USB XDMS from the Extreme is, to me, a more engaging conveyance of the subtleties that make listening so satisfying. Of course, different systems have different signatures, so YMMV.
 
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So, over USB the extreme + xdms was preferred to Olympus/io + roon?
Then xdmi moved the Olympus/io to another level?
Not at all. What I tried to say is that pre Olympus my listening preference with the Extreme was XDMS. I prefer the XDMS sound. But with. the Olympus and no XDMS choice I used Roon initially with USB and it sounded spectacular BUT as I said you cant unring a bell and when I went to Roon via XDMI using the digital board to my Lamppi Horizon it was game over UNTIL I swapped out the Chin Cheng PC from Olympus to wall with my Masterbuilt Ultra, I can honestly say there was no turning back. I still have a Chin Cheng in the IO but I do have a MasterBuit Ultra coming for the IO so there might be yet even more to gain with this power cord. The unknown for me and everyone is what XDMS when available for the Olympus will bring to the table as that was my preference with the Extreme BUT TBH Roon right now with XDMI sounds spectacular.
 

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