id love it if you guys posted some listening impressions of Horizon alone vs. horizon through Poseidon pre.
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And also Horizon against Poseidon, each on their own, please
Looks like another fantastic product from this unique Company.
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Hello,
The trade in program has been formally discontinued for about a year now, however, you may feel free to reach out to me directly to see if we are able to structure something for you.
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Fred A.
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How does the Poseidon compare to the Pacific 2 upgrade?
I love that there are several curious young ladies in the class
I hope this message finds you well and immersed in great music.
I wanted to take a moment to provide a brief update regarding the availability and delivery of our Poseidon DACs, as there have been a number of inquiries on this topic recently.
We are pleased to share that the production process is progressing smoothly, and Lukasz informs me that we are on track to complete and dispatch the first batch of 21 units before the end of the year! This is an exciting milestone for us, and we are eager to get these units into the hands of our customers.
As of now, there are 9 units from this initial batch still available for reservation. If you have been considering acquiring a Poseidon DAC and prefer to receive in 2023, now would be an opportune time to make your decision.
Feel free to reach out directly if you would like to discuss securing one of the remaining units or if there is anything else we can assist you with.
Fred A.
I wanted to take a moment to provide a brief update regarding the availability and delivery of our Poseidon DACs, as there have been a number of inquiries on this topic recently.
We are pleased to share that the production process is progressing smoothly, and Lukasz informs me that we are on track to complete and dispatch the first batch of 21 units before the end of the year! This is an exciting milestone for us, and we are eager to get these units into the hands of our customers.
As of now, there are 9 units from this initial batch still available for reservation. If you have been considering acquiring a Poseidon DAC and prefer to receive in 2023, now would be an opportune time to make your decision.
Feel free to reach out directly if you would like to discuss securing one of the remaining units or if there is anything else we can assist you with.
Fred A.
I have seen the Poseidon in the flesh tonight and it looks awesome
I own the Pac 2 and I heard the Poseidon in the presentation and I asked Lukas the same question, he said it always depends on the system but that Pac 2 was a more complex DAC because the tube rolling, while in The Poseidon you can do tube rolling the options are more limited to cheaper tubes. However Poseidon sounds outstanding and if you want a Pre with a DAC definitely this is the right choice
My 2 cents, hope it helps
I'm so excited by this product. I had the Horizon here at my home for a good few weeks (I can't remotely afford one but the UK distributor needed his demo unit delivering to someone and collecting whilst he was away so I ended up doing the favour and enjoying it's company). I was smitten by the Horizon; it was so unbelievably good I even got as far as looking at remortgaging and taking out the equity to pay for it, which is utterly ridiculous and obviously something I didn't do.
But with the Poseidon, I could in theory get closer to affording it by trading in my preamp and one high level RCA interconnect, as well as the GGI DAC; maybe the balance would be something I could justify financing. But it would really depend on just how good that preamp stage was in my system. With the Horizon, the benefit of a dedicated (albeit world class) preamp (a Concert Fidliety CF080LSX, seriously among the best preamp available), were clear. I would not have the Horizon without the preamp and this might possibly be associated with using 20W SET monoblocs. Not that I am remotely an expert on this, but I've been told by a few people who are that SET amps tend to benefit from the added drive that a dedicated preamp gives. ALso, HeiHei on here has recently added his Audionet Stern pre back into his chain having lived with the Horizon's preamp for a while and commented that the difference was easy to hear; he much prefers the Stern between the Horizon and the Heisenbergs, which are as far from low powered tube based SET designs as you can get!
So if the Poseidon is indeed a worldclass pre amp with a world class DAC built into it, rather than a worldclass DAC with a volume control, then maybe that will be a game changer. Very excited to find out!
But with the Poseidon, I could in theory get closer to affording it by trading in my preamp and one high level RCA interconnect, as well as the GGI DAC; maybe the balance would be something I could justify financing. But it would really depend on just how good that preamp stage was in my system. With the Horizon, the benefit of a dedicated (albeit world class) preamp (a Concert Fidliety CF080LSX, seriously among the best preamp available), were clear. I would not have the Horizon without the preamp and this might possibly be associated with using 20W SET monoblocs. Not that I am remotely an expert on this, but I've been told by a few people who are that SET amps tend to benefit from the added drive that a dedicated preamp gives. ALso, HeiHei on here has recently added his Audionet Stern pre back into his chain having lived with the Horizon's preamp for a while and commented that the difference was easy to hear; he much prefers the Stern between the Horizon and the Heisenbergs, which are as far from low powered tube based SET designs as you can get!
So if the Poseidon is indeed a worldclass pre amp with a world class DAC built into it, rather than a worldclass DAC with a volume control, then maybe that will be a game changer. Very excited to find out!
As someone who is using Horizon as my pre, I am also very interested in this discussion. I wonder if I should get the preamp version of the Poseidon. Or perhaps I should try the preamp that matches my amps….
Some fantastic feedback on the LampizatOr Poseidon from the Warsaw Show.
"LampizatOr / Sveda Audio / J.Sikora / KBL Sound. Finally, we crossed paths with the one and only Lukasz Fikus from LampizatOr, and boy, did we have a tapestry of tales to swap about the analog and digital realms, vacuum tubes, and so much more. Moreover, it marked our inaugural encounter with Sveda Audio’s NEON active speakers… though their appearance failed to trigger any inspiration. Initially, the J.Sikora Reference turntable set the stage for the music, and within moments, I was whisked away into a state of serene meditation. The only disruption from my reverie was the fellow diligently switching vinyl records. Normally, I hadn’t been a turntable aficionado, staunchly believing in the power of digital and top-notch streaming. But what I experienced via the Reference turntable, LampizatOr Poseidon’s preamp stage, and Sveda’s NEON can only be described as Pure Magic! I traversed through all phases of the Kubler-Ross Change Curve. It began with shock, denial, a touch of frustration, a bit of bargaining, and eventually, an overwhelming acceptance. This was it! The most vivid, life-like-sounding setup I’ve ever encountered at any audio exhibition. Terms like transparency, detail retrieval, or frequency response seemed insignificant as everything simply fell perfectly into place. In just a few minutes, the stars aligned, and I detached myself from the outside world. Suddenly, I comprehended the allure of vinyl and its cult following. The second surprise hit when Lukasz bypassed the turntable, playing the same track through their spanking new LampizatOr Poseidon DAC & Preamp. The surprising part wasn’t the incredible sound but the identical replication of the vinyl’s sound. I thought these guys were pulling off some magic, hiding something behind those unassuming boxes. How could a pair of active speakers with soft dome tweeters deliver such speed and mind-boggling transparency was beyond my grasp. We stood transfixed for a whole hour, unwilling to tear ourselves away. A rollercoaster of emotions coursed through us, and we couldn’t stop discussing that experience for two straight days. Even now, I get the jitters when I recollect that room. Returning on the second day, after a brief chat with Arek Szweda, we lauded him for the pure analog charm emanating from the NEONs. I’m thrilled to announce that we’ll be featuring reviews of the LampizatOr Poseidon DAC and Sveda Audio NEON in the coming months. I can’t recall the last time I felt this exhilarated to the core. Despite the system’s not-so-astronomical price, this room stood shoulder to shoulder with the very best setups we encountered in those three extraordinary days."
LampizatOr KBL Sound J.Sikora Turntables Graphite Audio Sveda Audio Audio Video Show SoundNews.net
https://soundnews.net/.../audio-video-show-warsaw-2023.../
"LampizatOr / Sveda Audio / J.Sikora / KBL Sound. Finally, we crossed paths with the one and only Lukasz Fikus from LampizatOr, and boy, did we have a tapestry of tales to swap about the analog and digital realms, vacuum tubes, and so much more. Moreover, it marked our inaugural encounter with Sveda Audio’s NEON active speakers… though their appearance failed to trigger any inspiration. Initially, the J.Sikora Reference turntable set the stage for the music, and within moments, I was whisked away into a state of serene meditation. The only disruption from my reverie was the fellow diligently switching vinyl records. Normally, I hadn’t been a turntable aficionado, staunchly believing in the power of digital and top-notch streaming. But what I experienced via the Reference turntable, LampizatOr Poseidon’s preamp stage, and Sveda’s NEON can only be described as Pure Magic! I traversed through all phases of the Kubler-Ross Change Curve. It began with shock, denial, a touch of frustration, a bit of bargaining, and eventually, an overwhelming acceptance. This was it! The most vivid, life-like-sounding setup I’ve ever encountered at any audio exhibition. Terms like transparency, detail retrieval, or frequency response seemed insignificant as everything simply fell perfectly into place. In just a few minutes, the stars aligned, and I detached myself from the outside world. Suddenly, I comprehended the allure of vinyl and its cult following. The second surprise hit when Lukasz bypassed the turntable, playing the same track through their spanking new LampizatOr Poseidon DAC & Preamp. The surprising part wasn’t the incredible sound but the identical replication of the vinyl’s sound. I thought these guys were pulling off some magic, hiding something behind those unassuming boxes. How could a pair of active speakers with soft dome tweeters deliver such speed and mind-boggling transparency was beyond my grasp. We stood transfixed for a whole hour, unwilling to tear ourselves away. A rollercoaster of emotions coursed through us, and we couldn’t stop discussing that experience for two straight days. Even now, I get the jitters when I recollect that room. Returning on the second day, after a brief chat with Arek Szweda, we lauded him for the pure analog charm emanating from the NEONs. I’m thrilled to announce that we’ll be featuring reviews of the LampizatOr Poseidon DAC and Sveda Audio NEON in the coming months. I can’t recall the last time I felt this exhilarated to the core. Despite the system’s not-so-astronomical price, this room stood shoulder to shoulder with the very best setups we encountered in those three extraordinary days."
LampizatOr KBL Sound J.Sikora Turntables Graphite Audio Sveda Audio Audio Video Show SoundNews.net
https://soundnews.net/.../audio-video-show-warsaw-2023.../
The Poseidon does indeed look lovely. But, like Apple, the problem for Lampi is that their older classic DACs are still so great that convincing old geezers like me to upgrade is a challenge. I still use an Apple iPhone XS Max. Sure , iPhone 15 is out, and the titanium looks slick. But my iPhone XS Max still works great. Yea, USB-C is nice, but I’ve got lightning connectors by the closetful.
Similarly, I continue to be delighted by my “vintage” Pacific “pure” DAC sans volume control, just as I want it. With premium KR 242 tubes and a Western Electric 274B rectifier feeding into an ARC 6SE balanced tube preamp, the sound is ravishing. And I’ve got a lot of lovely DHT triodes, from Western Electric 300Bs to Emission Labs 45 mesh plates to lovely old RCA UX301s that Goran put me onto. Why would I want to “upgrade”? Seriously, do I want to start another whole bout of tube rolling with pentodes and give up my KR 242s and 300Bs and 45s? The very thought is frightening.
That’s what happens when you design a classic. Customers who like the classic model are loath to upgrade. If I like a naturally aspirated six cylinder BMW 3-series, would I want to trade it in for a more recent turbo version or, heavens, an EV version? Or if I like a classic vintage Porsche, I’m happy to continue driving it.
I’m sure the Poseidon sounds fabulous, just as the Horizon does. Knowing Lampi’s standards, I would expect nothing less. But we vintage lovers like what we have now. I’m still waiting for a “pure” no holds barred DHT DAC from Lampi. Like when Leica reissued their legendary film camera. Don’t mess with a classic. The Pacific is a classic.
Similarly, I continue to be delighted by my “vintage” Pacific “pure” DAC sans volume control, just as I want it. With premium KR 242 tubes and a Western Electric 274B rectifier feeding into an ARC 6SE balanced tube preamp, the sound is ravishing. And I’ve got a lot of lovely DHT triodes, from Western Electric 300Bs to Emission Labs 45 mesh plates to lovely old RCA UX301s that Goran put me onto. Why would I want to “upgrade”? Seriously, do I want to start another whole bout of tube rolling with pentodes and give up my KR 242s and 300Bs and 45s? The very thought is frightening.
That’s what happens when you design a classic. Customers who like the classic model are loath to upgrade. If I like a naturally aspirated six cylinder BMW 3-series, would I want to trade it in for a more recent turbo version or, heavens, an EV version? Or if I like a classic vintage Porsche, I’m happy to continue driving it.
I’m sure the Poseidon sounds fabulous, just as the Horizon does. Knowing Lampi’s standards, I would expect nothing less. But we vintage lovers like what we have now. I’m still waiting for a “pure” no holds barred DHT DAC from Lampi. Like when Leica reissued their legendary film camera. Don’t mess with a classic. The Pacific is a classic.
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