It’s All a Preference
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Great what's the patent number so we can look it up and have a look.
Rob
I"ve PM'd you. This is not an appropriate forum to discuss it.
If it is related to sound reproduction, this is an appropriate forum to discuss it, but I really do think that the best place to start might be to do a series of posts in the DIY forum, detailing the theories, their history, how you've implemented them and the results you've achieved. They may very well show that the conventional wisdom is all wrong, but opposing the conventional wisdom in long posts that may (or may not) eventually reveal your positions and your work, in bits and pieces, strikes me as inefficient and poor communication at best. Lay it out. Then we'll all know position.
Tim
Tim
Methinks that this thread right here is excellent!
...Just the way it is; without any transfixation, juxtaposition, or transference. :b
...Just the way it is; without any transfixation, juxtaposition, or transference. :b
How about.....transubstantiation?
----It's from the Roman Catholic & Eucharistic theology!
...That has nothing to do with Preference. :b
More support that it's not all preference from here (when it comes to music preferences anyway) http://www.musica.uci.edu/mrn/V4I1S97.html#consonance
This also could have some bearing on what we perceive as "edginess" in digital audio Vs relaxation in vinyl reproduction i.e the noise floor etc. of vinyl is of much less importance than the dissonant characteristics of digital - the edginess & the finding that it fatigues us because of the extra processing effort required by the brain.
Depends on the specific vinyl noise, John. Normal surface noise? Yeah it's pretty harmless. Some even seem to like it. Snap Crackle Pop? Annoying as hell. Worse than digital distortion? I'm not at all sure to be honest. I can only recall having heard a DAC with an edge nasty enough to approach the audibility of a crackly record surface once. It was pretty bad.
Tim
Tim,
My point is that distortion that effects us at the subconscious level & only becomes expressed consciously as discomfort (edginess) can be a more important factor in disturbing our enjoyment of audio than the consciously obvious noises like surface noise & snap/crackle of vinyl which we seem to be able to "hear through" to the music. Our ears/brains are expert at audio filtering - focussing on a conversation in noisy environment or a baby's cry from a long distance away.
SO your comparison of snap & crackle Vs equivalent obvious noises in digital audio, misses the point.
It's desperate; headed rapidly toward pathetic. Almost makes me long for Frank to come along and change the subject to eliminating inaudible distortion by wiring his underwear to the microwave. Comic relief would be good about now.
By phelonious ponk
Indeed
By phelonious ponk
Indeed
Just want to check - is this a comment on what I just posted?It's desperate; headed rapidly toward pathetic. Almost makes me long for Frank to come along and change the subject to eliminating inaudible distortion by wiring his underwear to the microwave. Comic relief would be good about now.
By phelonious ponk
Indeed
No its part of a message P P posted a couple of pages ago i think it was page 45 , but i couldnt quote the whole message , it reminds me of an audiophile who turned of all electric equipment in the entire house for " serious undisturbed " listening.
No its part of a message P P posted a couple of pages ago i think it was page 45 , but i couldnt quote the whole message , it reminds me of an audiophile who turned of all electric equipment in the entire house for " serious undisturbed " listening.
Aren't they all on the same electrical line? A refrigerator motor can't affect the sound? A computer doesn't put hash into the AC line?
---Fridges are real bad; you should always disconnect it when doing critical listening.
...Computers too. ...And halogen, and dimmer lights. ...And even the phones.
...Computers too. ...And halogen, and dimmer lights. ...And even the phones.
You're right. I was absolutely off the plot. I thought you were talking about audible distortions, not something slowly eating away at my well-being on a subconscious level. I spent about 2 hours playing along with Spotify last night. My subconscious must be reeling!
Tim
I'm sure it can. And yet the fridge is on, the air conditioner is running, the computer is right here, and the background beneath my music is quiet.
Tim
Well, that is truly bizarre, because if I plug even my TV into the same circuit as the fridge I can see a glitch every time the fridge turns on, and if I turn the volume up enough on the home theater I can hear a faint buzz if the fridge is turned on. Humbuster and power conditioning seem to lower it, but only unplugging the fridge completely eliminates it. Most of us do have air conditioning on a separate circuit, fortunately, or I suspect it would do even more damage.
My stereo room has a dedicated line with none of the above problems.
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