KeithR's "Dream Speaker" Search

Keith, Welcome to Dallas. Joey_v on here runs the local audiophile club.
 
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Congratulations on the move, and on these big developments, Keith!
 
Curious....I've heard the Fyne Vintage Twelves and thought they sounded wonderful, how does the F1-12 compare to the Vintage Twelves?
And best of luck in your new place, enjoy.
 
Curious....I've heard the Fyne Vintage Twelves and thought they sounded wonderful, how does the F1-12 compare to the Vintage Twelves?
And best of luck in your new place, enjoy.
I haven’t heard them, but suspect the F1s sound more modern.
 
4-1/2 years and 3600+ posts. Do we really want the dream to be satisfied?
 
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Curious....I've heard the Fyne Vintage Twelves and thought they sounded wonderful, how does the F1-12 compare to the Vintage Twelves?
And best of luck in your new place, enjoy.
I had the chance to listen to both models (same system, same time). Actually it is hard to believe they are from the same speaker manufacturer !!
One sounded refined, a bit warm yet detailed, and above all very laid back. The other one was also refined and detailed but more neutral, and definitely more direct and punchy. The first one will let you do something else while listening to music like reading a book or browsing the web for example, not the second one that will definitely keep you focus... I guess there is no need to specify which one is which ;) So it is really a matter of preferences and type of listening.
One thing for sure regarding my experience with the f1-12s : unbelievable and unforgettable. Congrats !!
 
I picked up a pair of used YG Hailey 1.1s, planning to use as back channels in a 5.1 HT. Put them on some stands and tried them as the main speakers to see how they would compare to the YG Sonja XV2s. I connected them to the Boulder 3060 and tried them alone and with the REL 32s. They sound awesome, a speaker I could live with if I ever decided to downsize. Of course the 3060 is a very different amp compared to the amps Keith used with his Haileys, so I may be getting a different level of performance. In Ron's interview with Damon Von Schwiekert at 5:50 he described the sound of paper cone drivers as being slow and blurring the sound. That is the difference I heard when deciding to switch from Wilsons to YG. The YGs have a cleaner, quicker sound since YG use ultra stiff CNC aluminum drivers. I prefer the fast wave launch sound so the Fyne's would likely not be my choice. But I have not heard the Fynes. Do they have the paper cone sound described by Damon? It seems they would have to.

I have only heard VSAs at shows where, paradoxically, they always had VAC tube amps. Damon talks about not wanting distortion. I would like to someday hear the VSA with the amps and speakers 'rowing in the same direction'.
 
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I picked up a pair of used YG Hailey 1.1s, planning to use as back channels in a 5.1 HT. Put them on some stands and tried them as the main speakers to see how they would compare to the YG Sonja XV2s. I connected them to the Boulder 3060 and tried them alone and with the REL 32s. They sound awesome, a speaker I could live with if I ever decided to downsize. Of course the 3060 is a very different amp compared to the amps Keith used with his Haileys, so I may be getting a different level of performance. In Ron's interview with Damon Von Schwiekert at 5:50 he described the sound of paper cone drivers as being slow and blurring the sound. That is the difference I heard when deciding to switch from Wilsons to YG. The YGs have a cleaner, quicker sound since YG use ultra stiff CNC aluminum drivers. I prefer the fast wave launch sound so the Fyne's would likely not be my choice. But I have not heard the Fynes. Do they have the paper cone sound described by Damon? It seems they would have to.

No, they don't. I have heard Keith's system (here is link). Very clean, fast and detailed sound.

Per the Fyne website,


the material is multifibre paper cones. Probably a far cry from vintage paper cones.
 
the material is multifibre paper cones. Probably a far cry from vintage paper cones.
That makes me think that they do have that paper cone sound described by Damon Von Schweikert. It is a sound many people prefer and why paper cone drivers continue to be chosen by manufacturers like Fyne. I was listening to Wilsons last weekend, they sound clean, fast and detailed . . . until compared to speakers like YGs.
 
That makes me think that they do have that paper cone sound described by Damon Von Schweikert. It is a sound many people prefer and why paper cone drivers continue to be chosen by manufacturers like Fyne. I was listening to Wilsons last weekend, they sound clean, fast and detailed . . . until compared to speakers like YGs.

Trust me, I know clean, fast and detailed, having heard ML electrostatic speakers extensively, Ron's ribbon system and being very familiar with Magico M Project speakers over many listening sessions.

You can think whatever you want, but nothing beats having heard the Fynes in person.
 
I am struggling with the WVL Son as it is a speaker, on paper, that I should like. However, hearing four times and the bigger brother Chicago a couple of times I am not getting the right vibe from their speakers. They always sound too thin to me…and I am
Not a bass head. I also feel something is up with the radiation pattern differences I hear between the fieldcoil woofer and the AMT tweeter. It’s a speaker I WANT to like but so far don’t. The Cessaro Opus 1 has impressed me now two years in a row in Munich…great sounding two-way.
I was at @gestalt audio yesterday and was able to hear the WVL SONS and the Cessaro Opus-1. In my 4 hours of listening with the exact same system other than changing the speakers, I found myself favoring the Opus-1 but they are of course twice the price. I only went to Colin's to hear the SONS but left thinking what now. As others have mentioned he was a great host DJing his records as I auditioned the two speakers.
 
I was at @gestalt audio yesterday and was able to hear the WVL SONS and the Cessaro Opus-1. In my 4 hours of listening with the exact same system other than changing the speakers, I found myself favoring the Opus-1 but they are of course twice the price. I only went to Colin's to hear the SONS but left thinking what now. As others have mentioned he was a great host DJing his records as I auditioned the two speakers.
It was a pleasure having you Steve.
 
Quick update - had a 20a dedicated line installed and updated the grounding in the listening room (there was none on several outlets). I’ve also put an inquiry to installing Hunter Douglas Duette blinds for the two main windows on the right side.
 
I have all 3 outlets on the speaker end replaced with Porter Ports. (cryo’d Hubbell 5362)

The GIK art panels will be put on the left side. I will likely purchase bass traps for the two front corners after I hear the speakers in the room. The downward ported bass in a short wall positioning is likely to cause issues.
 
I have all 3 outlets on the speaker end replaced with Porter Ports. (cryo’d Hubbell 5362)

The GIK art panels will be put on the left side. I will likely purchase bass traps for the two front corners after I hear the speakers in the room. The downward ported bass in a short wall positioning is likely to cause issues.
Welcome to your new home Keith!
 

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