Magico M7 2023

[ScottK]

I won't be surprised if I'll see many second hand XVXs for sale soon

let me know where you find one. I'm interested!

 

[AudioGod]

let me know where you find one. I'm interested!

Lol
There will be a lot of people switching from XVX to M7
Audiophiles always want the latest and greatest
And to me the M7 are much more modern looking and their drivers feel more advanced to me.

 

[sbo6]

I won't be surprised if I'll see many second hand XVXs for sale soon

Strong camps for both, I doubt it.

 

[Ron Resnick]

Sometimes bigger woofers that may move less and work less actually result in more resolution and delicate sound with more nuance and realism.

It's a complicated question. Woofer experts feel differently in both directions.

 

[Ron Resnick]

I won't be surprised if I'll see many second hand XVXs for sale soon

When you dig into the details the design philosophies really are quite different:

-- exotic driver materials versus mostly paper drivers

-- diamond vapor deposited beryllium tweeter versus soft dome tweeter

-- biggest drivers in the bottom of the cabinet versus big drivers distributed top and bottom

 

[HenryD]

Duelunds caps, WOW!

 

[ScottK]

Lol
There will be a lot of people switching from XVX to M7
Audiophiles always want the latest and greatest
And to me the M7 are much more modern looking and their drivers feel more advanced to me.

How do the drivers "feel" more advanced? Will folks who own Kharma, Rockport, Vandersteen, etc want to also change? Clearly you're not a Wilson fan and that's fine. I have never understood the need to put down Wilson. It may not be your cup of tea but there are many who love the brand. I own the Magico A-5's in a second system. They sound great. I prefer Wilson as I've always admired how well they image brought about by the adjustable speaker modules which can tailor to any seating position.

 

[PeterA]

I won't be surprised if I'll see many second hand XVXs for sale soon

Do people switch from one brand to the other?

 

[AudioGod]

How do the drivers "feel" more advanced? Will folks who own Kharma, Rockport, Vandersteen, etc want to also change? Clearly you're not a Wilson fan and that's fine. I have never understood the need to put down Wilson. It may not be your cup of tea but there are many who love the brand. I own the Magico A-5's in a second system. They sound great. I prefer Wilson as I've always admired how well they image brought about by the adjustable speaker modules which can tailor to any seating position.

I'm not putting down Wilson
I'm just saying Magico used more advanced and exotic materials like Ron said .
And I prefer the more modern look of the Magico cabinet
Is there a chance I'll like Wilson's sound more than Magico's?
Definitely

 

[Ron Resnick]

Lol
There will be a lot of people switching from XVX to M7
Audiophiles always want the latest and greatest
And to me the M7 are much more modern looking and their drivers feel more advanced to me.

Don't forget about the Divin Majestic -- a serious competitor to both of these loudspeakers with a significantly different design philosophy.

 

[AudioGod]

Do people switch from one brand to the other?

It's possible
Can you buy a Ferrari and then switch to McLaren ?
Yes definitely
Your taste changes with time

 

[AudioGod]

Don't forget about the Divin Majestic -- a serious competitor to both of these loudspeakers with a significantly different design philosophy.

But they cost $500K

 

[PeterA]

It's a complicated question. Woofer experts feel differently in both directions.

I have read the arguments. Bigger and heavier new drivers mean slower, more sluggish. Smaller drivers with massive magnets can seem faster more nimble. On the other hand, a large, light, paper woofer can have incredible bass resolution, nuance and speed, while a smaller one has to work harder and move further, slowing response time. I do not think it is very complicated. I think it is about implementation of well known physical properties. Then there are the number of drivers and how they are loaded. Of course, I am no designer. I have just lived with both approaches and have an opinion. Form factor/aesthetics, and price point also factor in.

 

[ScottK]

Do people switch from one brand to the other?

That's an interesting question. One of the reasons I bought the A-5 was to "hear" and spend time with a different design that many folks admire. Yet in my main system I replaced Wilson for Wilson. Ultimately I've never thought there was one perfect speaker for me. I could comfortably live with any of the top tier brands.

 

[HenryD]

It's possible
Can you buy a Ferrari and then switch to McLaren ?

No chance.

 

[ScottK]

Magico used more advanced and exotic materials l

he did not say this. Does carbon mean more advanced?

 

[HenryD]

he did not say this. Does carbon mean more advanced?

Then paper? Hell yeah

 

[AudioGod]

he did not say this. Does carbon mean more advanced?

When you dig into the details the design philosophies really are quite different:

-- exotic driver materials versus mostly paper drivers

-- diamond vapor deposited beryllium tweeter versus soft dome tweeter

Yes
I think he meant more advanced materials

 

[ScottK]

Yes
I think he meant more advanced materials

Reminds me of a Woody Allen movie where a guy was explaining what Marshall McLuhan said while McLuhan happened to be actually standing behind him. "that's not what I said" he replied.

 

[AudioGod]

Reminds me of a Woody Allen movie where a guy was explaining what Marshall McLuhan said while McLuhan happened to be actually standing behind him. "that's not what I said" he replied.

Lol
Ask him then what he meant
That's how I understood his comment
I could be wrong