Massif Audio Design racks incoming, and......

Maple chopping blocks is something I did consider, too!
 
...I agree, Marty. I was cutting and milling and glueing stuff up, or having Pittsford Lumber mill/plane maple boards...and it's waaay easier and very similarly priced to get the Butcher Block pieces shipped. I have a few of their pieces around.
 
Any comments regarding different sonic effects of different wood types?
Maple vs acacia vs bamboo vs ?
 
May I ask for your advice?

I need two simple wood boards for a ac distributor (Furutech 609 ncf) and a ips router (FRITZbOx 5590).
They sit on top of a Stromtank. Stromtank on Stillpoints ultra 6.
Flat on Stromtank a Ikea Aptitlig.
Stillpoints ultra on top.
Second Aptitlig on top.
Stillpoints ultra on top.
Furu 609 and Fritzbox on top of these..

To my surprise they are very sensitive to what they are placed upon.
Different footers? Clearly audible.
Put a slab of lead on lower Aptitlig: things sound better…

There certainly are better choices than Aptitlig.

I have considered acacia wood chopping boards, maple, ash, massive
bamboo …
Unused acrylic boards from my Stillpoints rack?
Slate?
There is a piano maker (Steingräber) in nearby Bayreuth who might have material used for the rim construction …

What wood would you recommend to use in my situation, on top of Stromtank?
Due to room restrictions and ac cables and their length I would like to keep Furu 609 & Fritz on top of Stromtank.

Thx for your input!
Hi, I like tone woods. I’m not a big a fan of metal in racks and platforms or even manufactured/processsed woods like bamboo or even Panzerholtz . A nice maple, or rosewood (African or South American) with some nice isolation footers might work well. I’ve tried some Stillpoints , though not the models you have. I believe they are meant to couple and not isolate , right? Correct me if I’m wrong.

If I want to couple a piece of equipment I like Nordost Sort Futters, but more often than my customer wants to isolate, and choose Carbide Audio bases. I use them myself . Pairing proper isolation with solid tonewoods seems to be the winning combination.

Thanks!
 

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Has anyone compared solid wood racks to all-metal racks (such as those from Sound Anchors)? Which one sounds better?
 

These folks do a great job with thick maple platforms at very affordable prices. Recently, they have entered the heavy audio rack space (the poor man's Massif?). Check them out.
Massif racks are very reasonable and have some footer options if one wants to take them further in performance. I'm a Woodie not a fan of the industrial modern stuff.
 
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Has anyone compared solid wood racks to all-metal racks (such as those from Sound Anchors)? Which one sounds better?
Mike Lavigne has. He switched from metal racks to tone wood Massif racks and says they sounded better.

 
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Any comments regarding different sonic effects of different wood types?
Maple vs acacia vs bamboo vs ?
Yes, species of woods have different sonic characteristics. Wood changes and is susceptible to environment. I also like wood, I live in a log home. As I don't have a Laser Doppler Vibrometer, (I shared this in another thread) I used a magnetic stir plate with an erlenmeyer flask and a stethoscope. The speed of the magnet can be increased or decreased. It makes for a very good simulated mechanism to transmit sound and vibration. Close to a volume control.
I've experimented with a number of different species of wood. Way too many! Insanity!! I have a friend with a great woodshop. Various thicknesses, along with different cores. I recently made a beautiful solid red oak shelf from 100 year old red oak, 78" X 35" X 2.75". If I knew what I know now I would have constructed it in a different way. I would have layered it with a center core. I'm in the process of having some aluminum being jet water cut for a composition I really like. MDF/Aluminum/Wood, 3 separate platforms, 1 for the Olympus (and I/O if I get it), the Lampizator 360, and the Solution 727. I hope my efforts work! Don't misunderstand, many of these racks, shelfs, platforms are fine. When it's done right you gain a little more finesse/refinement out of the system. Going to the extreme of playing with different compositions whether it's platforms, or shelfs is a maddening exercise! @marty tweaked my interest a few weeks ago when he shared some experiments he did. There is no other way other than doing some preliminary experiments and hopefully it works as you think it will...
 
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We only use tone woods, maple,ansh, walnut ebony, rosewoods (cocobolo, bubinga etc) woods like that. If you have a particularly revealing system the difference can be big. Often it can be very system dependant. Maple is a great wood, it’s also the least expensive of the top tier woods. For my money I go with something a bit more exotic like Brazilian rosewood or lignum vitae.
Acacia isn’t something I’ve ever seen in racks or had an inquiry for. Bamboo is almost equal parts resins and glue . I don’t like it because although it may share some properties with hard woods, it’s not overly environmentally friendly, it deteriorates like plastic because of all the resin and chemicals involved in its processing.
 
We only use tone woods, maple,ansh, walnut ebony, rosewoods (cocobolo, bubinga etc) woods like that. If you have a particularly revealing system the difference can be big. Often it can be very system dependant. Maple is a great wood, it’s also the least expensive of the top tier woods. For my money I go with something a bit more exotic like Brazilian rosewood or lignum vitae.
Acacia isn’t something I’ve ever seen in racks or had an inquiry for. Bamboo is almost equal parts resins and glue . I don’t like it because although it may share some properties with hard woods, it’s not overly environmentally friendly, it deteriorates like plastic because of all the resin and chemicals involved in its processing.
Good point about bamboo
 
...in all fairness, I have not done much testing of bamboo shelves, but in concept I don't care for the irregularity/variability of the products, which one cannot really tell from the looks. They can look terrific...for grass.
 
The Emerald Ash Borer has decimated the Ash trees up and down the East Coast. Its been found as far west as Colorado, maybe further now. Nasty borer that migrated from Canada. Ash is a nice wood...
 
...we have nine ash trees we've been successfully treating for about 12 years for ash borers. The city lost a lot of ash trees some years ago. Great wood species. A little messy as a tree, but great wood for making stuff.
 
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...we have nine ash trees we've been successfully treating for about 12 years for ash borers. The city lost a lot of ash trees some years ago. Great wood species. A little messy as a tree, but great wood for making stuff.
Wow!! You've kept them alive! Not easy. Have you ever seen a Emerald Ash Borer? I've only seen them in pics. Most all the trees I drop for the boiler/firewood have been Ash. I heard reports here that they are coming back...
 
...originally, the big issue in Rochester was having too many of the same species in close proximity. The beetles went through big areas of tree stands. The city culled a lot of trees which helped a lot. The city arborist tells me they are still around, but not like when they first really hit. I have seen a few of the beetles, maybe 6-7 years back, and honestly, I crushed them. And I'm a guy who carries flies outside, or puts spiders on the ivy for aphid brunch. But those beetles are too nasty...
 
Were they bright Emerald Green?
 
You can see 3 dead Ash in the pic, the darker one, and the 2 without bark...
 

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...yeah they look metallic. We're afraid to stop treating the trees.

Sorry @T Boost but we are talking wood! And I am rolling through your gallery page puzzling over species. Gotta be very dark legs to go with black SRA amp stands, but shelf species?

Floor is white oak I smoked and fumed and waxed with Rubio. That floating floor project took forever.
 
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