Moving away from box speakers: Diesis Audio vs Avantgarde Acoustic?

Then I decided to upgrade the spikes to Acoustic Diode, and the distributer came again to install them, and they re-did the setup procedure. The placement as a result of the last setup was not much different to where the speakers had been before.
Strange. There is a regular poster who keeps changing his cone speaker set up and reports it as a 'wow' factor each time. And you put spikes and re-did set up and sound was same. Maybe you can hear the issues with Gryphon and CH and Wilsons.
 
Strange. There is a regular poster who keeps changing his cone speaker set up and reports it as a 'wow' factor each time. And you put spikes and re-did set up and sound was same. Maybe you can hear the issues with Gryphon and CH and Wilsons.
I do not have ‘golden’ ears, so I can’t say, if the sound changed dramatically. At the time I had an impression, that the sound had improved. I am now listening to this violin concerto, and it sounds really really good. And it’s not even a Living Stereo, just a regular Japanese Red Seal pressing.
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Maybe trying a different tube amp would kill the upgrade bug and I’ll be a happy audiophile again…
 
Well, Mephisto has some ‘meat on the bones’ compared to other SS amps. I think it’s a good match for WA. I do not think that trying a tube amplifier would completely solve my issue, but it’s a good suggestion, I may try it.
Could also try the Gryphon Essence. Sweeter with more tone than Mephisto.
 
No. It sounded disappointing.
Can you elaborate on that comment? I have owned the Nikas and now the Vistas and every speaker has its shortcoming. The Vistas have true horn bass and lacks the discontinuity of hybrid designs like the Nikas (albeit to my ears, my space and system).
 
It sounded harsh in the highs, like there was some kind of distortion there.
and that was with a tubed dac and GM70 tubed amplification? I heard that from time to time with the prototype that I apparently had. It was the Chicago Axpona show speaker. There was beaming and harshness from time to time in the upper frequencies, along with a lack of coordination between the bass and higher frequencies. The Vista speaker on the other hand has no such issues. I am unsure what was done to address these issues with the current generation.
 
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It sounded harsh in the highs, like there was some kind of distortion there.
That matches my impression.

It also lacked that certain high-end extra, so to speak. In other words: sometimes you hear a system that has a flaw, but at the same time you hear many positive aspects, so that you think: with a bit of work I'll get it right and it will sound great. I didn't get that impression here. I couldn't recognise any highlights, it seemed rather uninspired to me, as if everything didn't fit together one hundred percent or something like that.
 
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That matches my impression.

It also lacked that certain high-end extra, so to speak. In other words: sometimes you hear a system that has a flaw, but at the same time you hear many positive aspects, so that you think: with a bit of work I'll get it right and it will sound great. I didn't get that impression here. I couldn't recognise any highlights, it seemed rather uninspired to me, as if everything didn't fit together one hundred percent or something like that.
understood. That matches my impression having owned it. that being said, there is listening or psychoacoustic bias, associated equipment, set up, etc. There is unfortunately also listening acuity. People lose acuity as they age and stuff that I thought sounded fantastic, my kids and wife thought sounded like sh—.
 
I’m enjoying the difference so much I think I need more time before I sell a set!IMG_0770.jpeg
 
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