And i am talking about real four column speaker systems not puny little speakers !
Yeah i know .
Id love to hear a martin logan system like yours
Moving away from box speakers: Diesis Audio vs Avantgarde Acoustic?
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Yeah i know .
Id love to hear a martin logan system like yours
Speakers with limited bass output do not count !My Acoustats could do no problem and no my hearing is fine thank you
As much as I love Dipoles (also in small rooms) they absolutely need a uniform symmetrical wall behind them and optimally also symmetrical side walls.
This is not given here and therefore I would recommend Horn Speakers.
And i am talking about real four column speaker systems not puny little speakers !
4 tower system or multi tower systems can do so too if the mains are time coherent and balanced .
You have to balance how the bass towers integrate on the ML thats not so good when done right you cant even hear the bass towers it all should appear to come from the mains ..!
The more units a speaker has in general the more stacking occurs , thus the more distance is required to make them sound as a whole.
The drivers need a certain distance to blend
At 8ohm 2.83v and 4 ohm 2.00v= 1watt
there is usually a little cheating in favor of the manufacturer
Stacked or linesource? the point is you can make a FR speaker fully coherent at 1M ..!
Its been done for decades ...!
Its been done for decades ...!
Not cheating its 2.83V test voltage , not referenced to 1watt . If using 1w/M then you have to specify such ..!
Yeah but you should hear what a monocoque design can really do .And i am talking about real four column speaker systems not puny little speakers !
Play the Heat or Avatar movies over my CAT / XPE aystem at big volume and it will literraly scare you , im not kidding
You must be running steep slopes or ceramic drivers or both, their out of bandwidth performances are not really up to par so i can see coherency problems ..!
Do you measure anechoic ..?
They were 2.4 meters tall and 55 cm wide and were flat to 20hz with tremendous bass…even better than my Infinity IRS betas with 4 12 inchers per side.Speakers with limited bass output do not count !
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I can really second this recommendation.I could imagine that the horn driver and bass driver opus 1 are selected again (matched), so cessaro actually uses tad&supravox drivers. But there are also now in-house developments. I can't say anything more specific.
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I repeatedly preferred the Opus 1 over the bigger models at shows.
May be but it doesnt need to be .
Who listens at 1 m distance anyway
i dont really care about 1 m Fr output
If you want to specify the sound pressure level of a loudspeaker, you have to specify the impedance and the voltage used. For example, if you have a 4 ohm loudspeaker and the standard output is 2.83 volts, that is 2 watts of power and not 1 watt as with 8 ohms. So the loudspeaker has 2-3db more than it actually has.
Wow, can you share a pic of your system?I use 16x 12" woofers and 16x 7,5" for mid-bass.
Yes and no , the standard test is 2.83V you dont have to specify , you only specify impedance if you are referencing 1watt ..
2.83v@1M ... 93db (4ohm)
2.83v@1M ........ 93db (8 ohm)
Both are sensitivity references ..!
both speakers will make 93db when 2.83V is applied at speaker terminals granted at different power levels.
Same sensitivity but different efficiency levels , which is what you are eluding to..
Can't be done at 1 m, you need a big room, with distance to your listening position. Deep bass does not even develop at 1 m, i have set these systems up 25 years, in real life, not just theorizing in audio forums.
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