Munich HighEnd 2024

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Trios were always coherent and homogeneous. Any good horn has to transcend that hurdle and show homogeneity, coherence, bass integration, which are the big challenges for horns.

Homogenous? I don't understand what you mean by that word in the above.

In an audio context I see 'homogenized' used -- carrying over a sonic characteristic from record to record. But what is 'homogenous' as a characteristic in the sense that coherence is a characteristic? Maybe you were thinking of a different word?
 
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Homogenous? I don't understand what you mean by that work in the above.

In an audio context I see 'homogenized' used -- carrying over a sonic characteristic from record to record. But what is 'homogenous' as a characteristic in the sense that coherence is a characteristic? Maybe you were thinking of a different word?
Homogeneity in drivers. Not sounding like 3 or 4 speakers. Similar to coherent.
 
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Review coming on the all new Silent Pound speakers !


A bit like Diesis with a narrow baffle OB design and horn tweeter. The MTM is different and will give a different dispersion pattern but...cool...

What a weird brand name though.
 
I returned today to see my assessment improved. It did not. If Louis Armstrong were alive today to hear the speakers reproduce the well trodden audiophile classic, St. James infirmary he would’ve died a quick death from embarrassment.. And I thought horn production was supposed to be a strength of horn loud speakers? His horn came from somewhere within the space of about 20 ft.², no matter where I listened. Instrumental tone was simply unimpressive from bottom to the near top, at which point the ribbon tweeter may have saved them a bit. Just not my cup of tea I guess. But they sure are pretty.
Interesting...

why don't you write with your *real name* and we can have a discussion about what you experienced.
Give me a call

Are you a business professional? Or an enduser?

Best Regards

Michael
 
These videos make the differences between rooms clearer than most:


Taken with Samsung S24ultra.
 
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Interesting...

why don't you write with your *real name* and we can have a discussion about what you experienced.
Give me a call

Are you a business professional? Or an enduser?

Best Regards

Michael

Wow.

First, you don't write with your "real name" either, which is Michael Kromschröder:

Second, you don't disclose your industry affiliation (mandatory on WBF), which is:

As I can see from your website, you are an Aries Cerat dealer, so you have an agenda.

Third, I don't like the threatening mafioso undertone of your post:
"why don't you write with your *real name* and we can have a discussion about what you experienced.
Give me a call"

Seriously, Michael?

So, why don't you answer your own question for yourself:
"Are you a business professional? Or an end user?"

Al

PS: By the way, Marty is an end user. You would know that were you a frequent participant on this forum, rather than just jumping in when it's in your "business interest".
 
Interesting...

why don't you write with your *real name* and we can have a discussion about what you experienced.
Give me a call

Are you a business professional? Or an enduser?

Best Regards

Michael
If you had taken the time to read any of Marty's posts from Munich, you would have understood exactly his vantage point...
 
Wondering if there will be jumping out of the bush on RG as well as he wrote what he wrote...
 
Interesting...

why don't you write with your *real name* and we can have a discussion about what you experienced.
Give me a call

Are you a business professional? Or an enduser?

Best Regards

Michael
i will echo comments from @Al M. and @John T and mention that @marty is well known to members of this forum. your inference he is somehow hiding behind a first name only is insulting and bad form. we do have a few here who are anonymous and certainly that subject is open for comment when it comes up. but that is a member's right to do if they like and then take the heat.

you, OTOH, have 8 total posts here and this is your first post in 4 years. you obviously took no time to investigate Marty before you judged him. you are not helping your brand. but we are an understanding group, and i hope you can figure out a more win-win way to proceed. you would not be the first industry member to take offense at something posted here. and then figure it out going forward.
 
i will echo comments from @Al M. and @John T and mention that @marty is well known to members of this forum. your inference he is somehow hiding behind a first name only is insulting and bad form. we do have a few here who are anonymous and certainly that subject is open for comment when it comes up. but that is a member's right to do if they like and then take the heat.

you, OTOH, have 8 total posts here and this is your first post in 4 years. you obviously took no time to investigate Marty before you judged him. you are not helping your brand. but we are an understanding group, and i hope you can figure out a more win-win way to proceed. you would not be the first industry member to take offense at something posted here. and then figure it out going forward.
"The member has left the forum !" ;)
 
In none of the videos did I hear Natural treble.

In 6 years of regular visits to Munich, I have heard natural treble in extremely few rooms outside WE. Very rare. Less than 10 for sure, maybe even 5.
One of the reasons is wall to wall carpeting made from nylon.
 
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I have been going to the Munich Show every show since 2009 and I do think there has been progress in the sound over the years. Although the rooms seem to be quite challenging for many (most) exhibitors and I do believe it can't be that easy. Some rooms clearly easier than others of course.

i think I probably subconsciously give exhibitors a benefit of the doubt in my ratings for the show difficulties - perhaps I should not.

This year my favourite rooms (in no particular order) were the ones below. I do wish exhibitors would be a bit more judicious in their music selection and refrains from only (or mostly) playing safe music. It would make assessment easier. At least for me. All the rooms I visited at least three times and sometimes there were improvements from my first visit.

Rooms that I liked (or mostly liked) the most based on Saturday and Sunday viewings:

Magico + Pilium + Wadax
Kharma + MSB
VTL + Wilson
Göbels + Pilium
Kaweroo! +Ypsilon
MBL (better than last year)
Magico + MSB (better than last year)
Magico + Wadax + Audio Research (I think those were the amps)
Thrax
Raidho + Chord
Zellaton + YS
Rockport + Absolare (although last year better with bigger Orion)
Vienna + CH (Vienna are perennial overachievers I think)
Smaller Steinheim (dont remember the amps. Was better than Darzteel and Nagra with bigger Stenheim).
Cessaro and Cabasse were the best horns. Did not go see Avantgarde at the show since I saw the premier of Mezzo only a couple of months ago in Portugal. Horns are not my cup of tea.
Alsylvox seemed good if you like planars (also not my cup of tea).
Living Voice + SJS was okay, but were better last year. Really impacted by loud playing from ESD next door.
AudioNec + Dartzeel were good in the show. Probably the best room with Dartzeel.
Borressen T5 looks like a cracking speaker despite room not being an easy one.

So there was plenty for me to enjoy. This is why I keep coming back!



Pedro
 
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