Munich HighEnd 2024
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Not my gig , Never heard one sound like real bass ever , definitely HT thunder bass ready ..!
There’s a reason for the Box
You need a long skirt to hide a DRAGON ![please forgive my poor English]
Yet another polarizing topic?
Who wears the "appropriate" length ? (of skirt, I mean; you, pervs, were thinking about those long horns, weren't you?)
[please forgive my poor English]
Yet another polarizing topic?
Who wears the "appropriate" length ? (of skirt, I mean; you, pervs, were thinking about those long horns, weren't you?)
Not a Skirt , its a lamp shade ...!
I wanted and got quick & musical subs and although they are not the last word on subterranean bass, like on my WAAR system, they go low and deep enough, and they do not muddy-up the mid-bass.
where your box subowoofer runs out of steam, 4x 15"AE really start.Not my gig , Never heard one sound like real bass ever , definitely HT thunder bass ready ..!
There’s a reason for the Box
Dipole15 - Open Baffle Applications - Acoustic Elegance woofer
Dipole15 woofers are designed for open baffle bass applications. Featuring the Full Copper Faraday Sleeve (FCFS) for incredibly accurate reproduction.
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JL AUDIO Subwoofer 13W7AE-D1.5 - Carsound.at ♬ Ihrem Handels- und Vertriebspartner im Bereich Elektronik
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None, if done correctly, but it's often time consuming and sometimes virtually impossible
(using passive solutions).
As for the LV Vox mid bass: it's a 'leaky' horn cab, so there's a mix of direct and horn-loaded output. In theory not exactly ideal/optimal, but there are some tricks to work around/mitigate potential problems.
It's more logical to use an 816/817 style cabinet like GIP does for the 9700A.
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Totally agree, Elliot.
Large scale symphonic music to test separation, lack of dynamic compression, and scale (the sound should swell, growing larger and not just louder). Well recorded concert grand piano for testing weight and lifelike balance of attack, sustain and decay. Solo cello for testing tonality. Well recorded male and female vocal for testing midrange purity. Organ works for testing the bottom octave power and resolution.
EDM and most jazz sounds good on most systems, including PA style rigs. Nothing wrong with these musical choices but they are very safe.
An interesting comment! I haven't had any success in integrating a subwoofer in any of my systems so far but I expect you are right. Perhaps it is two that are necessary? And it probably isn't even about more bass, lol!
XPE I am not familiar with them. I own customized speakers that are not readily available like most big brand speakers so I think I know where you are coming from. Just back from Munich and I heard some wonderful speakers but many despite the price and hype I would not favour.My XPE speakers are perfect .
Sure I can add a bit more resolution like in the latest smaller model .
For the rest i wont change a thing .
The dealer where my small speakers are , likes them a lot .
Of course selling a unknown design is not easy
You dont like my speakers which is obvious .
Fine with me , good luck write whatever you want
I surely can upgrade my digital with either a WADAX or Metronome .
For the rest its all fine
I am normally interested to hear his sound clips rather than his views but they didn't sound so good this time, what did you think?
That's a well-founded argument Skywalker.
I looked up SGR and immediately came across this picture:
and thought: nice cone with, sure enough, a foam surround.
"Instead of following the market trend towards increasingly more rigid cone materials in an attempt to push resonances out of the audible band, we attacked the problem in the time domain using our proprietary paper cone formulation which has a higher stiffness to damping ratio than all known woofers. The result is a woofer with stored energy dissipation which rivals some of the very best tweeters! Never before has bass sounded this fast and articulate."
Marketing speak containing a rare amount of veracity.
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I didn't find my MasterSound Compact 300b to be special! Perhaps the higher priced ones are? Reliable, as far as your own experience or do you have some statistics to back your comment up?
Both the FM and Clarysis rooms sounded very good.
Hifideluxe actually had quite a few good sounding rooms/ product, the above stood out.
Thumbs up to FM Acoustics for also providing a very professional presentation and great musical selections! Many exhibitors should visit FM and take some notes as to how to present their product!
where your box subowoofer runs out of steam, 4x 15"AE really start.
the only ones that can keep up are the jl audio 12/13 AE 7 drivers, they goes under 20 hertz but you need 1 kwatt amps.(box sub)Dipole15 - Open Baffle Applications - Acoustic Elegance woofer
Dipole15 woofers are designed for open baffle bass applications. Featuring the Full Copper Faraday Sleeve (FCFS) for incredibly accurate reproduction.aespeakers.com
JL AUDIO Subwoofer 13W7AE-D1.5 - Carsound.at ♬ Ihrem Handels- und Vertriebspartner im Bereich Elektronik
Datenblatt
You must be kidding , you expect a dipole to have more bass output and less distortion than a tuned box ..!
Hahahaha
The FM room was better in 2022 with their bass pedestals!
Actively tri-amped SGR speakers (using SGR’s own amplifiers) have been my reference for close to 20 years. I am yet to hear anything, at any price, which makes me want to change. The bass section of this system (a collaboration between Michail Barabasz and Stuart Ralston) is very much the foundation and the initial reason for my purchase decision.
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