Natural Sound

[Steve williams]

Everyone has identified qualities in their system. Otherwise we would find this hobby pointless.

Hence the term “ one man’s passion is another man’s poison”

 

[PeterA]

Finally. You said it. Natural sound is a type of sound. Nothing more, nothing less.

Of course. Maybe you didn’t read the thread. It’s not a matter of finally. This was discussed pages and pages ago. Never said it was anything more or less or better or worse.

Were are you operating under some different understanding?

 

[PeterA]

Everyone has identified qualities in their system. Otherwise we would find this hobby pointless.

Agreed Al. I think David’s point was that I identified a type of sound from my system and named my system thread with that in mind. You identified the sound of your system and named your system thread mini monitors and subs. I could’ve called my thread corner horns. I ssimply chose a different approach.

That’s one of the things that makes the hobby interesting.

 

[Al M.]

My position is that some degree of intelligence is essential for a conversation and if individuals can’t even comprehend the gist of the title then the rest are better off without their participation.

This is not about intelligence, David. There will never be agreement on what constitutes natural sound of a system, and there will always be different understandings of it, see my post. That holds even among people who all have unamplified live music as reference.

Having followed Peter's journey over the last two years, I had initially no problem with his thread title. It seemed natural . Yet I can understand the criticism, which probably would have come upon anyone who had called their system thread "Natural Sound".

 

[Al M.]

Agreed Al. I think David’s point was that I identified a type of sound from my system and named my system thread with that in mind. You identified the sound of your system and named your system thread mini monitors and subs. I could’ve called my thread corner horns. I ssimply chose a different approach.

That’s one of the things that makes the hobby interesting.

Except that the title "My monitor/subwoofer system" describes the technical means of sound reproduction, not the sound that I identify with my system.

 

[jeff1225]

Except that the title "My monitor/subwoofer system" describes the technical means of sound reproduction, not the sound that I identify with my system.

I read it as you are "monitoring the sound of subwoofers" and not listening to the music.

 

[Al M.]

I read it as you are "monitoring the sound of subwoofers" and not listening to the music.

ROFL!

 

[PeterA]

Except that the title "My monitor/subwoofer system" describes the technical means of sound reproduction, not the sound that I identify with my system.

I thought people are free to choose the title of their own threads using whatever criteria they choose. I guess I was mistaken.

 

[microstrip]

IMO, more important to natural sound than the speakers!

Do you really think so?

 

[Lagonda]

Except that the title "My monitor/subwoofer system" describes the technical means of sound reproduction, not the sound that I identify with my system.

I personally found Peters "Natural sound" thread title very humble compared to his previous " Sublime Sound" system thread ! Nobody had problems with Pass Labs and Magico receiving that accolade !

 

[microstrip]

I thought people are free to choose the title of their own threads using whatever criteria they choose. I guess I was mistaken.

Surely. But WBF members are also free to comment on it ...

 

[ddk]

This is not about intelligence, David. There will never be agreement on what constitutes natural sound of a system, and there will always be different understandings of it, see my post. That holds even among people who all have unamplified live music as reference.

Having followed Peter's journey over the last two years, I had initially no problem with his thread title. It seemed natural . Yet I can understand the criticism, which probably would have come upon anyone who had called their system thread "Natural Sound".

Honestly Al, I have no idea what you’re arguing for here.

david

 

[morricab]

Do you really think so?

Yes

 

[tima]

Dear Graham,
Arguing what’s natural or not is a moot point and has no relevance to anything discussed here and it adds nothing to the conversation. “Natural” is a descriptor used by the OP and others to describe attributes of a system and a type of sound quality. “Natural” is as valid a term as “Living Voice”, ”Living Stereo”, “His Masters Voice”, etc., etc..

david

Exactly - treat it as a proper name and all this gooey nib nab about whether music is natural goes away.

 

[ddk]

Exactly - treat it as a proper name and all this gooey nib nab about whether music is natural goes away.

Not sure about that Tim we seem to have a few touchy feely members here who don't seem to get over it !

david

 

[the sound of Tao]

Exactly - treat it as a proper name and all this gooey nib nab about whether music is natural goes away.

This music is not unnatural I say… I was just practicing a little satyr… and yet still they completely pan us
Lol, just a picture of me going out with a bit of comedy.

 

[Lagonda]

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This music is not unnatural I say… I was just practicing a little satyr… and yet still they completely pan us
Lol, just a picture of me going out with a bit of comedy.

You lost weight !

 

[Al M.]

I personally found Peters "Natural sound" thread title very humble compared to his previous " Sublime Sound" system thread ! Nobody had problems with Pass Labs and Magico receiving that accolade !

Sure, but compared to "natural" there's not much to discuss about "sublime" .

I guess everyone agrees that "sublime" is personal, and if someone finds their system "sublime" that's their thing.

"Natural" one the other hand appears to imply something general. Trouble is, when it comes to sound reproduction, no one can agree on a general meaning of it .

 

[microstrip]

Not sure about that Tim we seem to have a few touchy feely members here who don't seem to get over it !

david

No, they just want to debate it freely, as they do in other WBF threads.

BTW, Peter just added an interesting point, the direct influence of Vadimir Lamm in "Natural Sound".

 

[PeterA]

No, they just want to debate it freely, as they do in other WBF threads.

BTW, Peter just added an interesting point, the direct influence of Vadimir Lamm in "Natural Sound".

The professor telling us that an interesting point was just added. Pay attention in class!