Natural Sound

Yes, i also found Lowthers to be very dyamic and unparalleled..... unitl i head a direct driven full range ESL. That blew everything i heard away and i mean everything.... i was hooked for life....

A good panel speaker will be better than compromised horns.
 
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Full range ESL's have this special quality everyone here knows of, just most (not all) are very boring to listen to all day... This is because of the transformer losses and the impossible way to drive them ...
All this can be solved with a DD amp (also not just any DD amp as also here we have differences). The other issue is size...if you want real life performance you need real life ESL's not toys...
I had three pairs of Acoustat (1+1, Spectra 2200 and Spectra 4400), STAX ESL-81 and Audiostatic RS100s. Also had some Apogees and a ribbon hybrid of my own design (still have that in the cellar). Until i moved to horns I was a planar guy. I never found them to get boring though...even with transformer coupling.
 
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Says the guy with no system...just a pile of arrogance.

If you can't take it don't try to give it. You don't last a sentence without aggravating yourself
 
Audiostatic RS100s
I never liked those (not reliable) but the Stax i think (not know) should have been nice (Acoustats are very strong, maybe not the best sounding but reliable and therefore my choice).
 
I never liked those (not reliable) but the Stax i think (not know) should have been nice (Acoustats are very strong, maybe not the best sounding but reliable and therefore my choice).
They were my first stats...very transparent but uneven response got annoying.
 
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Yes, there was a DD amp and upgrade...
Twin OTL - Twinstatic Audio

It is a kind of competitor for me .... so we are not on speaking terms ;)

For more info please PM me or we can start a different thread....

Great idea. Please move all of this SET/Horn talk over to the SET/Horn thread and PM each other about your specific system chat. Thank you.
 
Great idea. Please move all of this SET/Horn talk over to the SET/Horn thread and PM each other about your specific system chat. Thank you.

Except that's electrostat / OTL they are discussing. It's natural sound though
 
I think that all topologies here can be naturally sounding, as we all agreed to disagree what that may be...
 
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Or come here and you'll shock them :D

Great idea. Bonzo can visit those in the Boston area who have not posted videos. Shocking would be one way to describe those encounters. Bonzo would increase his exposure to non SET/horn systems and digital and enlarge his video collection to include such systems.
 
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In audio authorities are not certified. Status is not earned. At best there can be an authority in a group. Like right now, Boston has many authorities. David is Peter's, Al is an authority on videos and on listening with eyes closed, Ack is his own counsel, etc

Bonzo, you are on a roll. What about Ian and VLS?
 
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We already discussed this. We aspire to hear a sound which we think of as natural from our stereo systems.

The violinist who was made by his two human parents plays a song composed by a human on a violin made by a human in a hall build by humans.

Are you saying that the sound of that man made violin played in a man made concert hall by a man made violinist can not sound natural?

It seems most of us are trying to hear a sound from our systems that reminds us of that violinist playing in that hall. Would you rather have us discuss how unnatural our systems sound?

Perhaps someone should start a system thread called ‘Unnatural Sound from a Man Made HiFi System”.

Peter

Are you trying to get your system sound as realistic as it can be? Is that perhaps a more accurate word? or not sexy enough? Transparent, Zen like - plenty of descriptors to cover how a hifi system sounds.

A violin can sound beautiful, it can sound aggressive but it cannot sound natural as it is man made.

Beauty is natural, the beautiful countryside is natural - hifi is not. It is a reproduction of what is on a record, cd or file. There is nothing natural about it. that is my point.
 
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Often (rather most) times people "only" upgrade within the brands they own ;)
Sure it gets a little better every time but at what expense :rolleyes:
People should be MUCH more open to other options, like Peter became :cool:

That was me, for sure.

I finally gave up because Bonzo was giving me a wedgie. When he started twisting, I cried uncle and promised to switch.
 
That was me, for sure.

I finally gave up because Bonzo was giving me a wedgie. When he started twisting, I cried uncle and promised to switch.
Is that like being hoist by your own petard? Or, petards?
 
Peter

Are you trying to get your system sound as realistic as it can be? Is that perhaps a more accurate word? or not sexy enough? Transparent, Zen like - plenty of descriptors to cover how a hifi system sounds.

A violin can sound beautiful, it can sound aggressive but it cannot sound natural as it is man made.

Beauty is natural, the beautiful countryside is natural - hifi is not. It is a reproduction of what is on a record, cd or file. There is nothing natural about it. that is my point.
Any instrument that you hear "as is" or in other words, the real instrument, must by definition be natural sound. Just because it was not sound "made by nature" doesn't mean it is not "natural" sound.
 
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Peter

Are you trying to get your system sound as realistic as it can be? Is that perhaps a more accurate word? or not sexy enough? Transparent, Zen like - plenty of descriptors to cover how a hifi system sounds.

A violin can sound beautiful, it can sound aggressive but it cannot sound natural as it is man made.

Beauty is natural, the beautiful countryside is natural - hifi is not. It is a reproduction of what is on a record, cd or file. There is nothing natural about it. that is my point.

XV-1, I chose not to use the word "realistic" for the title of this thread. You could use it and start your own thread to describe the sound of your system. You could explain what you mean by the word, how you arrived at your component choices, and share all of that with the forum if you want. It would be interesting. I promise to not write on your thread that what you write is not true. It would be fascinating to read which of your turntables sounds the most "realistic" to you and why. I would enjoy that.
 
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That was me, for sure.

I finally gave up because Bonzo was giving me a wedgie. When he started twisting, I cried uncle and promised to switch.
Well, keep in mind that his "chosen system" has only settled on horns and SETs in the last year or so...before that it was Apogee Grands and some others. You would think he has been an advocate for the horn sound for the last few decades...if you didn't know any better.
 
XV-1, I chose not to use the word "realistic" for the title of this thread. You could use it and start your own thread to describe the sound of your system. You could explain what you mean by the word, how you arrived at your component choices, and share all of that with the forum if you want. It would be interesting. I promise to not write on your thread that what you write is not true. It would be fascinating to read which of your turntables sounds the most "realistic" to you and why. I would enjoy that.
How would you contrast a natural sounding saxophone to a realistic sounding saxophone? To me the two SHOULD be one and the same.
 
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