Need some Lampi help please

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Christoph, they're about 40 bucks each. Unless you're buying enough for the entire country of Lichtenstein, I think you can handle it! :cool:
I was more thinking of the shipping costs
 

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From personal experience tube dampers have their pros and cons. While they may reduce microphonics, they also changed the sound, sometimes to the negative.
 
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From personal experience tube dampers have their pros and cons. While they may reduce microphonics, they also changed the sound, sometimes to the negative.
Please elaborate
 

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The tubes almost look like bracket-ed teenagers :p
Are the dampers around the sockets necessary as well or more to ease the mind while at it?
Damon and I both thought it sounded better with the lower dampers
 
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I never considered putting them around the bases. GREAT idea!! Will do.
Shit Marty.....
I apologize if I didn't mention that:(
 

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Please elaborate

In my pre-amp I found that the tube dampers closed down the sound. I much preferred it without the dampers. I didn't have much of a microphony issue so it wasn't a hard decision to take them off.
 

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In my pre-amp I found that the tube dampers closed down the sound. I much preferred it without the dampers. I didn't have much of a microphony issue so it wasn't a hard decision to take them off.

No but you do have some microphony issue otherwise you wouldn't have heard a difference.

And that's exactly it. A bit of microphony can sound pretty damn good.

It's in your pick up cartridge. It's in the microphones used on stage. It's in amplified and unamplified (to a much less noticeable extent) stringed instruments. And drum kits. Etc etc.
 
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Had these years ago Chris!
Really?
And didn't say a word?
Will you bring them next time?
Are you still using them with the Pacific as well or only with the GG?
 

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i mentioned them years ago. I even misplaced them with recent movement of gear...no chance to look for them recently.

I consider them an insurance policy...but I only ever noticed microphony with defective tubes that rattle when shaken like my old kr px4. Btw, i dont like any px4.

Marty wants to know what is the diff between KR 242 and the RK version. IIRC, the RK is less wild and aggressive than the KR....but i only have the KR. Either you or Goran have both.
 
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i mentioned them years ago. I even misplaced them with recent movement of gear...no chance to look for them recently.

I consider them an insurance policy...but I only ever noticed microphony with defective tubes that rattle when shaken like my old kr px4. Btw, i dont like any px4.

Marty wants to know what is the diff between KR 242 and the RK version. IIRC, the RK is less wild and aggressive than the KR....but i only have the KR. Either you or Goran have both.

The KR if you think is aggressive, is improperly set up which is why you don't like it
 
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The KR if you think is aggressive, is improperly set up which is why you don't like it
Not really...we did a shootout months ago in Liecht with GG1.9 and demo Pac. 242 vs rk 300b vs px25. The other guys liked 242 better than I did. 242 was at its best in GG. 300b was at its best in Pac...but px25 was overall winner to me in both dacs.
 
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Goran has both kr and rk 242...i think. I am sure he has rk and i have kr....so in Jan we can compare again.
 
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Not really...we did a shootout months ago in Liecht with GG1.9 and demo Pac. 242 vs rk 300b vs px25. The other guys liked 242 better than I did. 242 was at its best in GG. 300b was at its best in Pac...but px25 was overall winner to me in both dacs.

I have heard 2 Pac with RK 300b one of them in different set ups. The tube has a very artificial sound.

The same Pac with 242 in Heihei's set up with audionet was just the best source I heard, period.
 
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KR PX25 is best in most setups for me. I now have RK Px25 and will try that soon.

RK 300B was not great in GG, better in Pac.
 
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i mentioned them years ago. I even misplaced them with recent movement of gear...no chance to look for them recently.

I consider them an insurance policy...but I only ever noticed microphony with defective tubes that rattle when shaken like my old kr px4. Btw, i dont like any px4.

Marty wants to know what is the diff between KR 242 and the RK version. IIRC, the RK is less wild and aggressive than the KR....but i only have the KR. Either you or Goran have both.

I don't remember you using tube dampers :oops:

I'm not a fan of the PX4 myself :rolleyes:

I had first the regular KR 242 and then (now) the RK 242, but not at the same time.
From memory I would say the RK 242 are a little bit more refined while the regular KR 242 are more dynamic and explosive...
 

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