we have one forum member here with the 468. don't know beyond that really. I've heard they are mostly in Asia/China. I know one in the Southwest USA.
New 468 monos
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we have one forum member here with the 468. don't know beyond that really. I've heard they are mostly in Asia/China. I know one in the Southwest USA.
My comment did not address only the 458/468 - it was a general one on matters of this hobby. Nice you are vaccinated against upgraditis - I also took the vaccine long ago. But audiophile curiosity has no vaccine ...
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as you know, my vaccination took some effort. and I have no illusions it is permanent.......as the virus can mutate. and for me it's more life circumstances push me into a state of enjoyment and past that stage of curiosity......the balance of those forces change.
Sometimes things are very simple. If you are the happy owner of the (in your opinion) best power amp of the world, what do you want more??? E.g. in my case I heard and compared a lot of staff for two years and never found a better match for my taste. I am still happy with my decision.
That doesn‘t mean there maybe exist an over all better machine like the 468 (very probably it will not be worse, probably it will be better). But pressure to instantly upgrade I don‘t feel. The amp is really not the weakest link in the chain.
That doesn‘t mean there maybe exist an over all better machine like the 468 (very probably it will not be worse, probably it will be better). But pressure to instantly upgrade I don‘t feel. The amp is really not the weakest link in the chain.
Almost afraid to read it, especially if it has a direct A/B with the 458/468.
I suppose I must surrender to the entity and just let it happen. I’m surprised I’ve resisted this long. The 458’s are just so good....
Me too... with my 458 I don‘t miss anything. Really nothing. Fear to hear the 468 are a step forward and it begins itching me to hear them.
You know you are going to get the upgrade someday!
It is why we should get any upgrades as soon as possible!
Why waiting and pretending we do not need them?
You know you are going to get the upgrade someday!
It is why we should get any upgrades as soon as possible!
my piggy bank is not bottomless. i feed it then fund from it.....keeping the SWMBO happy along the way.
spent a couple of years doing the digital, now i'm on the vinyl, my King Cello is being upgraded for my RTR's, could amps be on the horizon?
my ears are what sets my priorities, and amps were the last thing i felt needed work.
which is why i'm afraid to read that damn review.
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You have already used up a pen full of piggies Mike, time to slaughter onemy piggy bank is not bottomless. i feed it then fund from it.....keeping the SWMBO happy along the way.
spent a couple of years doing the digital, now i'm on the vinyl, my King Cello is being upgraded for my RTR's, could amps be on the horizon?
my ears are what sets my priorities, and amps were the last thing i felt needed work.
which is why i'm afraid to read that damn review.
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well, i read the Fremer review.
i guess i gotta do it.
damn.
i guess i gotta do it.
damn.
Mike,
Let us imagine a different situation. Suppose MF considered the upgrade was not worth getting.
Would you desire it less?
I already had direct feedback from a few 458->468 owners about the differences. And so was most of the way in the bag. This was the proverbial last straw.....to the inevitable conclusion.
there was zero chance Fremer was going thumbs down here. I’ve spent lots of time with the series 2 108 so get the type of difference.
I can’t really say how it would have effected me if it would have been different from Fremer. You ask a fair question.
Not very many things left to push my system farther on the path I’ve chosen.
Congrats, Mike...a decision you are unlikely to regret...and all of us will no doubt vicariously enjoy!!! On my own scale, I have not looked back after going from Colosseum to Mephisto, nor from CJ GAT 1 to GAT 2. Not one bit. Great designers make real upgrades...and for those fans of the original, it can be a great treat to get the upgrade since you've already 'invested' in the original already.
On my own scale, I have not looked back after going from Colosseum to Mephisto, nor from CJ GAT 1 to GAT 2. Not one bit. Great designers make real upgrades...and for those fans of the original, it can be a great treat to get the upgrade since you've already 'invested' in the original already.
Congrats, Mike...a decision you are unlikely to regret...and all of us will no doubt vicariously enjoy!!!
my only caveat is the level of satisfaction at what i hear every day from my current amps. they are crazy good. my ears are not asking for better. just how significant would the upgrade be?
it's why the A/B/A/B Fremer was able to do, that others doing the upgrade could not do, that did make a difference to me. it shed light a bit deeper into it. sending your amps away for 2-3 weeks, then hearing the amps return without that reference sitting there is less certain.
btw; it's possible others did buy new fresh original build 468's to replace their 458's. so had the two side by side. i've just not heard about that.
Did you try the new NHB 108's in your system? There is almost no information about them in the net - considering that the old 108 sounded great and was popular I would expect some talk about people carrying upgrades.
