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I find that Philly has been a bit of a bust so far. I expected more from them

I agree Celts are in the top tier

The team that has impressed (surprised) me in the East so far has been the Heat. Butler seems to have been a big addition
 
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Embiid had 0 points in 32 min in the loss. Raptors own them, even without Kawhi.
 
I find that Philly has been a bit of a bust so far. I expected more from them

I agree Celts are in the top tier

The team that has impressed (surprised) me in the East so far has been the Heat. Butler seems to have been a big addition

Agree Steve, the Heat are very potent.
 
Clippers beat the Mavericks this evening 114-99.

Doncic is a very good player - 20 points, 8 rebounds, 6 assists.

Fortunely, not enough to overcome 28 from Kawhi, 26 from PG and 21 from Sweet Lou Williams.
 
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Whenever Lou Williams comes in I expect the pace of the game to change. How the Lakers traded him is beyond me

Clipps are beginning to gather momentum and the Rockets are fading

The top 4 in the west is all up for grabs
 
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even though I am a die hard Lakers fan and have purple and gold in my vends, tonight is going to be a terrific game in New Orleans as AD makes his return against the Lakers cast offs. This game should be all out war and even though I love watching the Lakers finally after 7 years show some productivity I would love to see the Pels win this one. It would tighten up the west even more and tie the Lakers with the Bucks for overall best record.

Pels are doing better than SAS, Blazers, GSW and Memphis and IMO have great potential
 
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Well here is a guy who has lots of experience coming back to his former city and teammates and fans.:rolleyes:

LeBron James coaching Anthony Davis on return to former city

As Anthony Davis fielded questions about what his return to New Orleans on Wednesday might feel like, he stared across the Los Angeles Lakers' locker room at someone who already has answers about how to navigate an uneasy homecoming: LeBron James.

Of course James remembers the animosity in the air when he played his first game in Cleveland with the Miami Heat. He remembers it so well that he knows the date -- Dec. 2, 2010 -- as if it was a loved one's birthday.

Nearly a decade later, he's trying to prepare Davis for what to expect when New Orleans Pelicans fans will surely pelt him with vitriol pent up from seeing their franchise player walk out the door. In the past week, a number of Lakers spoke about the issue.


"I talked to him," James said. "Because I know what it's like going into a situation where you would call home for seven years. ... He's a kid when he got there, and he became a man along that seven-year journey, so it's just going to be a different situation for him personally."

Davis said he's already had a dress rehearsal. He "felt like I was on the other side," he said, when he was booed at home in February in his first game after the trade deadline when he was still on the team despite requesting a trade. This time, he'll actually be on the other side when he's introduced as a Laker.

"I got a little taste of it, but I know it's going to be even worse," Davis said last week.

A couple of days later, as the game drew even closer, he was more blunt about what he expected.

"I'm pretty sure every time I catch the ball, it's probably going to be boos and stuff like that," Davis said. "Obviously they're fans of the Pelicans. And I understand why they feel that way, but it's all love on my end."

Lining up for the Pelicans, if healthy, will be former Lakers Brandon Ingram, Lonzo Ball and Josh Hart -- only adding juice to the matchup.

"It's going to be a great battle. Those guys are going to try to take our heads off just to prove a point and -- I don't want to say I want to take their heads off [but] -- I just want to win it," Davis said.

James might have played the most notable "reunion game" out of all of the Lakers, but he's not the only one of Davis' teammates to experience it firsthand. Rajon Rondo played in Boston less than a month after being traded to Dallas. Danny Green went back to play in San Antonio after the Spurs traded him to Toronto following eight fruitful years. Dwight Howard visited Orlando his first time around as a Laker. And even Lakers coach Frank Vogel knows the feeling, coaching the Magic in Indiana after spending nine years with the Pacers franchise. Some of those return games were dynamite. Some were duds. All of them are stories Davis can learn from.

"Just focus on getting the win," Rondo told ESPN. "That's all that matters. You want to go back and beat your home team -- or your old team. Just focus on getting the W. And you go from there. Let your game speak for itself. Don't try to press anything. Just be who you are. He doesn't have to go out there and try to score 50 -- even though he can do it, probably, any night. Just go out there and get the win."

Of course, that's easy for Rondo to say. Not only did the Mavs beat the Celtics by 18 when he graced the parquet again, the point guard put up a season-high 29 points on 12-for-19 shooting.

"S---, if he wants to have a big game, of course he wants to have a game," Rondo said. "I just want to get a W. Anybody who is playing against their old team, I want to beat their ass and go from there."

James' performance was even more impressive -- 38 points and eight assists in 30 minutes in a 28-point win -- and Davis knows about it.

"Bron told me he had like, I want to say 39 [points] in his return, so put a little pressure on me," Davis said. "Like I said, if we get the win, that's more than enough."

Howard also got the win in Orlando, and his 39 points were the most he's ever scored as a Laker.

Others weren't so fortunate. The Pacers drilled Vogel's Magic squad by 19.

"It wasn't fun," Vogel said. "It's no fun losing to your prior team, especially for me where I had deep roots there in Indiana."

And Green had one of the worst games of his career, going 0-for-7 from the field with three fouls in an 18-point loss.

"Before the game, you do so much more of saying hello and showing love to the coaching staff, arena people," Green said. "You don't really have a chance to work out and lock in on the game. It's tough. It's weird, nostalgic."

Spurs coach Gregg Popovich, asked to reflect on Green's return, said: "We honored the hell out of him, [me] personally and collectively as an organization."

Green said the show of appreciation stirred up emotions, causing him to think about his entire career. But it wasn't just that. The experience of coming back to his house that he'd abandoned for months as he rented a furnished home in Toronto was another unanticipated wrinkle.

"It didn't feel like home," Green told ESPN. "I hadn't been there in a while. ... You go on the road, there's a time when you always come back home. But it felt like I had been on the road for a really long time. I hadn't been to my house in a long time, so it was strange."

Green ended up winning the championship in his lone season in Toronto -- as the saying goes, the best way to get over a breakup is to live your best life. And Davis is returning from a position of strength -- the Lakers are No. 1 in the West, while the Pelicans are No. 11.


"I'm excited to play it. I just don't want to get through it, I'm excited to play," Davis said. "It's going to be fun."

And if there are moments that are not so fun, he's equipped for them, too.

"I have help there," Davis said. "I have someone to lean on who's been through it, and just letting me know like, 'Look, [do] X, Y and Z, just do this,' whatever, whatever and help me throughout that entire game."

The hope is that with all the guidance available to him, the night can shrink in significance from something he perceives as an epic event to just another game.

"The greatest thing is when you finally get on the floor and that ball tips up," James said. "There's nothing but strictly basketball, and everything else doesn't matter at that point."
 
Here is the best article of the day with the last sentence saying it all....if this trade doesn't work out then just demand another one

Sadly here in the NBA this is a classic story of the tail wagging the dog

Anthony Davis, the Lakers and the state of NBA superstar trade demands

When Anthony Davis asked the New Orleans Pelicans to trade him, preferably to the Los Angeles Lakers, it may have seemed like a tough decision. But he had five decades of history to show him how.

In 1968, Wilt Chamberlain informed the Philadelphia 76ers that he wanted to be traded to the Lakers. Chamberlain threatened 76ers general manager Jack Ramsay that if he wasn't accommodated he'd take his talents to the new American Basketball Association or play pro beach volleyball.

Chamberlain got his trade. Thus, the NBA superstar trade demand was born. More than 50 years later, its implementation has never been stronger.

Modern-day stars have been forcing trades at a record pace. It's remarkable it has taken this long, as the leverage of a basketball star is unparalleled in major team sports.

Even after Kareem Abdul-Jabbarmade his power play by asking the Milwaukee Bucks to trade him in 1974 (the trade happened in '75), others barely followed. The 1980s were largely devoid of such action, though Magic Johnson did publicly demand a trade that forced the Lakers to fire coach Paul Westhead. It wasn't until 1992 that another in-his-prime superstar made the play, when Charles Barkley pushed his way out of Philadelphia.

This decade, of course, it has become routine business. Some, such as Chris Paul, Carmelo Anthony and Paul George, have pressured their teams to trade them twice. Call it player empowerment if you want, though it has more the feel of player enlightenment.

The track record of players demanding trades might be enough to pull you in that direction:

Chamberlain won his second title in Los Angeles and played plenty of volleyball in his free time.

Abdul-Jabbar won five more rings and loved being back in L.A.

Johnson won four more titles with new coach Pat Riley.

Kevin Love asked for a trade and won a championship in Cleveland.

Kawhi Leonard asked for a trade and won a championship in Toronto before landing as a free agent with the Clippers.

Paul ended up playing for competitive teams, getting elected as union president and making millions in endorsements after moving to the Clippers.

George appeared content enough in Oklahoma City to re-sign for four years (three plus an option). Then he asked again for a trade and went close to home to compete for titles with the Clippers.

When George, Leonard, Kyrie Irving and Jimmy Butler demanded trades, they didn't immediately get to control where they ended up. That lack of agency -- despite attempts to exert control -- is one downside for players.

Irving seemed to thrive in Boston, then ended up abandoning a public pledge to re-sign there. "I'm incredibly grateful to be here, it's been a journey," Irving said after departing for Brooklyn, closer to home. "This is a game, but also our lives come into this, and when it affects our happiness to play basketball then the product ... is not great."

Like Irving ultimately, Leonard, George and Butler each got to choose his next destination, leaving the teams that acquired them by trade. All four are examples of how fragile contentment can be in the current NBA but, then again, all four are examples of the eventual positive outcomes from trade demands.

So if you're a star and you're disenchanted or you see an opportunity elsewhere, you might as well go ahead and issue an instruction to your team. You might face a backlash from fans and others, and you might forgo millions when you don't sign the largest possible contract with your original team -- in some cases tens of millions. But you are probably already on a nine-figure deal and will have another one coming your way.

When Anthony Davis made his trade demand in January, he was fined $50,000, faced boos and lived in NBA purgatory for four months with his playing time cut. Meanwhile, the Pelicans played out the string and waited for the offseason, when the trade to the Lakers would ultimately be consummated.

"When you look at LeBron, every year you know he's going to be great and his team is going to have a chance to win the title," Davis said last year as he stated his intentions. "From here on out, I want to be in that conversation every year. Not every other year. Not every few years. Every year."

By July, he was smiling wide like Chamberlain and Abdul-Jabbar before him. Those few months of bad press and uncomfortable nights weren't automatically forgotten, but they had faded.

Now the Lakers are 15-2 and looking like title contenders. Playing alongside James has been an adjustment, and Davis has been dealing with shoulder and rib injuries, but the situation has been everything he could've hoped for. He's months away from likely signing a max deal to stay in L.A. The future, as far as one can see, looks bright, and Davis isn't apologizing.

"As long as I can sleep at night and live with the decisions that I made, then I'm happy and I don't really care what anyone else thinks," Davis said.

As he returns to New Orleans for the first time Wednesday night (ESPN, 9:30 ET), he might wish a few things had gone differently. Perhaps the trade demand didn't have to be made publicly, he could have continued to compete rather than sit and watch his team lose and he didn't have to wear the "That's all Folks!" shirt on the last night of the season.

But major regrets? If he has them, he won't be admitting to them anytime soon, it appears.


In the 2018 offseason, Davis closed on a $7.5 million home near L.A. and hired agent Rich Paul, a wartime consigliere in the NBA world. In retrospect, it was clear he had a good idea about what was coming. Paul performed his job, giving the bad news to the Pelicans and then doing his best to scare off the Boston Celtics and other suitors until New Orleans had very few options other than making a deal with L.A.

In the end, Davis got what he wanted -- including reportedly an even grander rental home closer to Staples Center. Plus good access to the ocean in case he wants to take up beach volleyball.

And in a couple of years, if this trade hasn't worked out, he could just do what superstars do: ask for another one.
 
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Next to the King, my least favorite player is James Harden. I won't deny he is a great player but rarely does he have anything important to say. This however I agree with him completely

Adam Silver, don't do this.....hopefully the NBAPA will vote against this

James Harden scoffs at idea of regular-season NBA tournament: 'Are we in college?

James Harden is not here for radical change in the NBA.

Last week, news broke that the NBA is considering significant changes to its regular season and postseason, with an in-season tournament reported as part of those plans.

ESPN reported that the league is in discussion with the National Basketball Players Association about an in-season tournament that would consist of a group stage before six division winners and two wild cards would advance to a bracket-style tournament.

Harden scoffs at idea
Harden was asked about the idea Tuesday at Houston Rockets practice. It’s safe to say he’s not on board.

The proposed tournament is being floated for November into December, which would coincide with the multitude of Thanksgiving week tournaments played in college basketball.

Rockets forward P.J. Tucker shared Harden’s sentiments.

“I don’t want to play for anything else. ...You play games to win an NBA championship, period.”

Will money motivate players?

While Harden’s response was curt and dismissive, Tucker’s gave voice to the challenge Adam Silver will face from players and fans.

While Silver is seeking avenues to combat declining ratings, the idea of a tournament that doesn’t doesn’t have legitimate stakes attached is a tough sell to American athletes.

While it it’s an established idea in European soccer circles, U.S. athletes are motivated by the legacy that comes with winning an actual championship.

But they’re also motivated by money, which appears to be the incentive being floated, with financial compensation reportedly being considered for advancement in the tournament.

That appears to be the selling point the league will have to hammer home in its negotiations with the NBPA. Without the NBPA’s support, Silver’s idea doesn’t fly.



How does the NBA sell the idea to fans?

If the league does motivate the NBPA to the point of implementing the tournament, its next sales pitch will be with fans. Presuming the NBA doesn’t plan to motivate fans with financial incentives, the league will face a tough sell on that front as well.

While money may eventually get players on board, convincing fans that a tournament of multimillionaire athletes playing for more money doesn’t make for the most compelling pitch.

The league would have to convince fans that the tournament actually means something. Without that, it would amount to a novelty at best.
 
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Imho Jimmy Butler is a big Addition to any Team.

Miami is going to be a tough team and although I doubt they will prevail in the East I do think they can prove to be spoilers to several teams trying to reach that finish line
 
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Of the 3 who were traded to the Pels (Ingram, Ball and Hart), Ingram was the one who I felt had the most potential so to read this article made perfect sense to me.

Last year's Lakers were the biggest disaster in the entire league

Now with Pelicans, Brandon Ingram reflects on final year with Lakers: 'It wasn't always good'

When the Los Angeles Lakers play the New Orleans Pelicans on Wednesday night, everyone involved in the blockbuster trade that took Anthony Davis from the Pelicans to the Lakers will be facing their former team for the first time.

Brandon Ingram is one of those players. After three seasons with the Lakers, he was sent to New Orleans along with Lonzo Ball, Josh Hart, and three first round picks. Going from the Lakers, a team hoping to break into the playoffs this season, to the Pelicans, a team that’s trying to build a foundation with young talent, might seem like a downgrade. Ingram, however, revealed to USA Today that being on the Lakers last season wasn’t a picnic.

“The team was a little rattled. Coming in every day, it wasn’t always good,” Ingram told USA Today. “It wasn’t always good energy.”

It’s not hard to see why. The addition of LeBron James last year raised expectations for the Lakers, and when the team struggled (and eventually failed) to meet those expectations, morale took a downturn.

It didn’t help that rumors swirled around a possible Davis trade to the Lakers for months. The Lakers were struggling, and landing Davis in-season would have helped anchor a flailing roster. Things turned ugly, though, when negotiations and possible trade terms were leaked. Magic Johnson ended up accusing former Pelicans GM Dell Demps of being behind those leaks and negotiating in bad faith.

It was a distraction, but Ingram is sanguine about the whole ordeal.

“I’ve never been in a position of GM. I don’t know how it could’ve been handled,” Ingram told USA Today. “I know it’s hard decisions to be made. I know these decisions had to be made to make them a better team, and they’re obviously a better team this year. So I don’t know how I would’ve handled it. They had to handle it how they handled it, and it worked out great.”

The Pelicans aren’t wowing anyone right now, but they have tons of potential. They have a lot of players missing time due to injury (including Zion Williamson, who is on track for a mid-December return from knee surgery), but Ingram has already had a positive impact on the team. He’s currently in the top 10 in scoring, and is one of just three players in the NBA to average 26 or more points, seven rebounds and four assists.

Despite all the drama that surrounded the Lakers, Pelicans and Anthony Davis last year, it seems possible that this trade may have worked out well for everyone involved
 
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Loooking forward to watching Lakers - Pelicans tonight.

No offense to Laker fans but I'd like to see New Orleans win this game as just a small bit of a payback.

precisely my feelings as well.
 
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Loooking forward to watching Lakers - Pelicans tonight.

No offense to Laker fans but I'd like to see New Orleans win this game as just a small bit of a payback.
And how I wished Zion was in.
 
Here is the best article of the day with the last sentence saying it all....if this trade doesn't work out then just demand another one

Sadly here in the NBA this is a classic story of the tail wagging the dog

Anthony Davis, the Lakers and the state of NBA superstar trade demands

When Anthony Davis asked the New Orleans Pelicans to trade him, preferably to the Los Angeles Lakers, it may have seemed like a tough decision. But he had five decades of history to show him how.

In 1968, Wilt Chamberlain informed the Philadelphia 76ers that he wanted to be traded to the Lakers. Chamberlain threatened 76ers general manager Jack Ramsay that if he wasn't accommodated he'd take his talents to the new American Basketball Association or play pro beach volleyball.

Chamberlain got his trade. Thus, the NBA superstar trade demand was born. More than 50 years later, its implementation has never been stronger.

Modern-day stars have been forcing trades at a record pace. It's remarkable it has taken this long, as the leverage of a basketball star is unparalleled in major team sports.

Even after Kareem Abdul-Jabbarmade his power play by asking the Milwaukee Bucks to trade him in 1974 (the trade happened in '75), others barely followed. The 1980s were largely devoid of such action, though Magic Johnson did publicly demand a trade that forced the Lakers to fire coach Paul Westhead. It wasn't until 1992 that another in-his-prime superstar made the play, when Charles Barkley pushed his way out of Philadelphia.

This decade, of course, it has become routine business. Some, such as Chris Paul, Carmelo Anthony and Paul George, have pressured their teams to trade them twice. Call it player empowerment if you want, though it has more the feel of player enlightenment.

The track record of players demanding trades might be enough to pull you in that direction:

Chamberlain won his second title in Los Angeles and played plenty of volleyball in his free time.

Abdul-Jabbar won five more rings and loved being back in L.A.

Johnson won four more titles with new coach Pat Riley.

Kevin Love asked for a trade and won a championship in Cleveland.

Kawhi Leonard asked for a trade and won a championship in Toronto before landing as a free agent with the Clippers.

Paul ended up playing for competitive teams, getting elected as union president and making millions in endorsements after moving to the Clippers.

George appeared content enough in Oklahoma City to re-sign for four years (three plus an option). Then he asked again for a trade and went close to home to compete for titles with the Clippers.

When George, Leonard, Kyrie Irving and Jimmy Butler demanded trades, they didn't immediately get to control where they ended up. That lack of agency -- despite attempts to exert control -- is one downside for players.

Irving seemed to thrive in Boston, then ended up abandoning a public pledge to re-sign there. "I'm incredibly grateful to be here, it's been a journey," Irving said after departing for Brooklyn, closer to home. "This is a game, but also our lives come into this, and when it affects our happiness to play basketball then the product ... is not great."

Like Irving ultimately, Leonard, George and Butler each got to choose his next destination, leaving the teams that acquired them by trade. All four are examples of how fragile contentment can be in the current NBA but, then again, all four are examples of the eventual positive outcomes from trade demands.

So if you're a star and you're disenchanted or you see an opportunity elsewhere, you might as well go ahead and issue an instruction to your team. You might face a backlash from fans and others, and you might forgo millions when you don't sign the largest possible contract with your original team -- in some cases tens of millions. But you are probably already on a nine-figure deal and will have another one coming your way.

When Anthony Davis made his trade demand in January, he was fined $50,000, faced boos and lived in NBA purgatory for four months with his playing time cut. Meanwhile, the Pelicans played out the string and waited for the offseason, when the trade to the Lakers would ultimately be consummated.

"When you look at LeBron, every year you know he's going to be great and his team is going to have a chance to win the title," Davis said last year as he stated his intentions. "From here on out, I want to be in that conversation every year. Not every other year. Not every few years. Every year."

By July, he was smiling wide like Chamberlain and Abdul-Jabbar before him. Those few months of bad press and uncomfortable nights weren't automatically forgotten, but they had faded.

Now the Lakers are 15-2 and looking like title contenders. Playing alongside James has been an adjustment, and Davis has been dealing with shoulder and rib injuries, but the situation has been everything he could've hoped for. He's months away from likely signing a max deal to stay in L.A. The future, as far as one can see, looks bright, and Davis isn't apologizing.

"As long as I can sleep at night and live with the decisions that I made, then I'm happy and I don't really care what anyone else thinks," Davis said.

As he returns to New Orleans for the first time Wednesday night (ESPN, 9:30 ET), he might wish a few things had gone differently. Perhaps the trade demand didn't have to be made publicly, he could have continued to compete rather than sit and watch his team lose and he didn't have to wear the "That's all Folks!" shirt on the last night of the season.

But major regrets? If he has them, he won't be admitting to them anytime soon, it appears.


In the 2018 offseason, Davis closed on a $7.5 million home near L.A. and hired agent Rich Paul, a wartime consigliere in the NBA world. In retrospect, it was clear he had a good idea about what was coming. Paul performed his job, giving the bad news to the Pelicans and then doing his best to scare off the Boston Celtics and other suitors until New Orleans had very few options other than making a deal with L.A.

In the end, Davis got what he wanted -- including reportedly an even grander rental home closer to Staples Center. Plus good access to the ocean in case he wants to take up beach volleyball.

And in a couple of years, if this trade hasn't worked out, he could just do what superstars do: ask for another one.

I believe it all depends on the James' package. Title or bust. If AD does not get to win a title this year, is he banking on signing a 2yr deal (at most) with the Lakers to let a 36-37 year old LeBron win him his first title? Depends on what or how James will do to convince him to stay with him in LA. If the guy can convince AD to leave his team, fire his agent and get James' own agent to land to play with him, I guess it will be so easy for AD to buy ice from James when they are in the Arctic. :D
 
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