Presidential Debate: The Heck Happened???

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I know I'm better off than I was four years ago, I can do the math, but personal economics, even market economics, has never been a good reason to vote for or against an incumbent president. No doubt many people do that. Many people aren't very well-informed.

An outside chance of better leadership? If that's the only criteria, hell, I'd vote for the challenger every time. If enough of us did that it would send a valuable message while not doing much damage domestically. Internationally? Damned dangerous.

Vote for the governor from MA? Because I don't believe this thing is as bumper-sticker simple as you've presented it, I'm trying to figure out if the guy running on the GOP ticket is still the governor from MA. He wasn't for the last year. He has been for the last week. One thing is certain: He has a very casual relationship with the truth. But I suppose that's an occupational hazard.

Tim

This casual relationship, Unique to this particular governor :) I can go 10:1 for every Governator lie vs Ohhhh....

I wont even have to go back further than last week ... Rofl

As for being better off, you should use more of that superior intelligence and factor in ,

Devalued dollar, rising National Debt, defunct and very unstable middle east, unstable oil prices and supply due to such, increase future taxation and healthcare cost, rising crime, increased military conflict and high cost of corruption currently in washington...

Yes, you're way better off, apparently you must be talking about your hi-fi system .. :)

FMA ...?

:)
 
'Spin meistering' is now being taught at the elementary school level. Interesting to think that most politicians learnt it at law school, LOL.

Actually, Davey, most law schools aren't that practical. That's one of the big complaints these days.
 
We are getting political. Once the next shoe falls and someone gets upset we will close the thread. But maybe there is something more fun we could talk about regarding how the whole thing works, rather than what the thing is :).
 
This casual relationship, Unique to this particular governor :) I can go 10:1 for every Governator lie vs Ohhhh....

I wont even have to go back further than last week ... Rofl

As for being better off, you should use more of that superior intelligence and factor in ,

Devalued dollar, rising National Debt, defunct and very unstable middle east, unstable oil prices and supply due to such, increase future taxation and healthcare cost, rising crime, increased military conflict and high cost of corruption currently in washington...

Yes, you're way better off, apparently you must be talking about your hi-fi system .. :)

FMA ...?

:)

I always find the "they all lie" response to be a cop-out. Politicians and the truth? Yes, it's a loose relationship, but getting back to this particular case instead of generalizing to avoid the issue, this is a guy who governed as a moderate in MA, ran WAY to the right for the GOP primaries, got caught on tape being extremely elitist and internationally cavialier, then, when the polls were ripping him a new one, went on national TV and did a sudden 180 on platforms, positions and personality. Right there, on the spot. If you were paying attention; if you knew what he had said, who had been a week before, even what was on his website right then, it just left you with your mouth hanging open. "58 million people are watching? Pay no attention to what I've been or said, just be here now."

Sorry, they don't all do that.

With that said, the guy who was Gov of MA? I kinda like that guy. But at this point I have no idea who might show up at the White House in January. That gives me pause. It doesn't make you worry about how he might govern? Who we might get in the White House? Really?

Am I better off? You bet. I have better income, better prospects and a much better portfolio. The value of my real estate hasn't recovered to its high, but its high was pretty bloated, IMO. All that stuff you listed up there? A) I don't agree with all of it -- I don't think the ME is less stable than it was 4 years ago, I don't think oil prices are less stable than they were 4 years ago, I'm certain we are engaged in less military conflict than we were 4 years ago, I don't know the crime statistics, but crime has been going down for years, a bump in a terrible ecoonomy would come as no statistical surprise, and corruption in Washington...you blame that on this administration? Any single administration? I think you're really reaching here to poke a stick at the other side. And I think you've missed the criticisms they really deserve.

Tim
 
We are getting political. Once the next shoe falls and someone gets upset we will close the thread. But maybe there is something more fun we could talk about regarding how the whole thing works, rather than what the thing is :).

Right you are, Amir. If you want to delete my last post, be my guest.

Tim
 
I always find the "they all lie" response to be a cop-out. Politicians and the truth? Yes, it's a loose relationship, but getting back to this particular case instead of generalizing to avoid the issue, this is a guy who governed as a moderate in MA, ran WAY to the right for the GOP primaries, got caught on tape being extremely elitist and internationally cavialier, then, when the polls were ripping him a new one, went on national TV and did a sudden 180 on platforms, positions and personality. Right there, on the spot. If you were paying attention; if you knew what he had said, who had been a week before, even what was on his website right then, it just left you with your mouth hanging open. "58 million people are watching? Pay no attention to what I've been or said, just be here now."

Sorry, they don't all do that.

With that said, the guy who was Gov of MA? I kinda like that guy. But at this point I have no idea who might show up at the White House in January. That gives me pause. It doesn't make you worry about how he might govern? Who we might get in the White House? Really?

Am I better off? You bet. I have better income, better prospects and a much better portfolio. The value of my real estate hasn't recovered to its high, but its high was pretty bloated, IMO. All that stuff you listed up there? A) I don't agree with all of it -- I don't think the ME is less stable than it was 4 years ago, I don't think oil prices are less stable than they were 4 years ago, I'm certain we are engaged in less military conflict than we were 4 years ago, I don't know the crime statistics, but crime has been going down for years, a bump in a terrible ecoonomy would come as no statistical surprise, and corruption in Washington...you blame that on this administration? Any single administration? I think you're really reaching here to poke a stick at the other side. And I think you've missed the criticisms they really deserve.

Tim

I think you have missed all my points, So ........

I'm no Rombony fan and Yes, i'm very aware of the evil and its owners, Rombony will be another puppet , differing from current puppet only in competence. This added or apparent competence will help to boost moral , which means the plebs will start to dance a bit again.

Now, you might be in a better position or so you think , again you missed another one of my points, having a billion and living in Afghanistan does not a rich man make, as our society breaks down everyone is poorer for it ...

ME:

So you think the ME is no worst than it was 4 yrs ago... :) I guess you are not aware of our activities in the ME, anyway in order not to make the other show drop, Great imagination, your system must image marvelously ... :)

Regards,
 
Its time we had a President that had more than a vice for Poontang and Money, It's time for a Hi-Fi President :) I nominate Rockit man, of course all hi-fi purchases in the future would be tax deductable ... :)

Made in the US of A of course ...... !!!!
 
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