Record cleaning

[prehberg]

does anyone recall back about 40+ years ago...(yeah I know!) A product for cleaning records. It was a thick clear liquid. Along the lines of the vinyl virginizer. You coated the record, let it dry and peel it off. Worked great , and not as messy as white glue!

 

[tima]

I vaguely recall something like you describe that came out of the BBC. More recently I believe Kirmuss had some peel-off treatment with his offerings -- do not know if that is still true. I've not seen any interest here.

Fwiw, there is a sub-forum devoted to record cleaning.

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[prehberg]

I vaguely recall something like you describe that came out of the BBC. More recently I believe Kirmuss had some peel-off treatment with his offerings -- do not know if that is still true. I've not seen any interest here.

Fwiw, there is a sub-forum devoted to record cleaning.

Record Cleaning and Related Topics

www.whatsbestforum.com

Thanks

 

[thomasx]

The name of the product is discofilm and still available.

 

[prehberg]

The name of the product is discofilm and still available.

That's it...thank you sooooo much.

 

[prehberg]

only problem looks like its not available in canada

 

[prehberg]

The name of the product is discofilm and still available.

looks like its not available in Canada

 

[Neil.Antin]

There is another product out of Australia - https://recordrevirginizer.com.au/, and it does appear if they ship to Canada. It was reviewed many years ago- https://www.analogplanet.com/content/record-revirginizer-record-cleaning-system.

Disclaimer: I am only passing on information, this not an endorsement.

 

[prehberg]

There is another product out of Australia - https://recordrevirginizer.com.au/, and it does appear if they ship to Canada. It was reviewed many years ago- https://www.analogplanet.com/content/record-revirginizer-record-cleaning-sying on information, this not an endorsement.

thanks i came across that on YouTube of all places. very pricey. Think I'll stick with Lepages school white glue. (i tried actual lepages carpenters wood glue but it dries too brittle, did a good job but a pain to remove) a cpl of bucks at the dollar store. tried it on one side of a very dirty LP l had and worked awesome. stays flexible when peeled off and got rid of everything. played nice and quiet, far better then i expected. too bad about the discofilm. wonder what happened to the Canadian distributor. I went thru a few bottles years ago. stuff worked amazing. Oh well. but again thanks for the help.

 

[Chop]

I used discofilm or the Australian "record revirginizer" for a while. I decided that though they do a pretty good job of removing dirt they made the records sound bright or unnatural. I concluded they must leave some sort of a film or residue on records though you can't see anything - in fact they leave records looking lovely.
I have been using ultrasonic cleaning for a few years now using an Elmasonic P120 with a final rinse of weak L'Art Du Son, and wont be changing from this.

 

[tima]

I used discofilm or the Australian "record revirginizer" for a while. I decided that though they do a pretty good job of removing dirt they made the records sound bright or unnatural. I concluded they must leave some sort of a film or residue on records though you can't see anything - in fact they leave records looking lovely.
I have been using ultrasonic cleaning for a few years now using an Elmasonic P120 with a final rinse of weak L'Art Du Son, and wont be changing from this.

Hi Chop, yes, I recall your current regimen.
I realize you know the following. I am posting for others who may be curious about L'Art Du Son.

I believe the "final rinse of weak L'Art Du Son" is a treatment applied to the record to increase lubricity -- reduce friction between stylus and groove.

Here is a conversation I had with user @redcars (Don) in 2019. It his post in my DIY thread, quoting me in italics. He hasn't been hear for a while.

Thanks for that explanation - I understand better what you're doing ...I think. Your approach is to clean the record then 'treat it' with L'Art du son.
This is fascinating. Although I'm not reading you explicity to say the L'Art du son leaves or adds something on the record surface that was not there before its application, my takeaway is that it does put something on the record that changes the friction of the stylus in the groove. And this changes the sound you hear and you like the change.

This is correct. Thanks for rephrasing it for me. A secondary purpose for L’Art is to remove any particles that may be loosened but not removed in the the ultrasonic.


Does L'Art du son permeate or somehow bond to the record surface? I remember the claim that the Last product became part of the vinyl's structure - or something like that. Or is it like the Gruuv Glide product that eventually wears off? Does the L'Art du son come off on the stylus?

L'Art leaves a surface coating on the record even after it has been vacuumed off in two passes by the arm of the Loricraft. As my system improved, I still liked some of the effects of L’Art, but I could hear the L’Art as a clouding of the music and I did not like it. I started with the recommended dilution of one bottle in a gallon of water, and increased that in steps until I got to five gallons. (4.9 gallons was still audible) Keep in mind that the L’Art is basically a concentrated soap (with other mystery ingredients?) in a four ounce bottle. Diluted in five gallons of water it is a 160:1 reduction.

L’Art is removable; it washes off in the ultrasonic. I have never noticed that it goes away with time or with playing the record.

tima's DIY RCM

Letting people know that the Flow Max Pleated .35 Micron Filter Cartridge 2-1/2" x 10" that I describe using is now discontinued by the manufacturer (Watts). There may be some left in dealer stock, but I have not found any. I'm thinking they wanted to rebrand all their filters of this type...

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edit: I asked the moderator to move this thread to the Record Cleaning forum.

 

[Chop]

Hi Tima

The final rinse is to remove any last residue of the IPA in the distilled water. It does seem to have a sort of lubricant effect, in any case using a final rinse definitely makes records sound better it definitely.

Don (Redcars) and I became very good friends. I'm afraid he hasn't been here for a while because he died just after Christmas.

 

[tima]

Hi Tima

The final rinse is to remove any last residue of the IPA in the distilled water. It does seem to have a sort of lubricant effect, in any case using a final rinse definitely makes records sound better it definitely.

Don (Redcars) and I became very good friends. I'm afraid he hasn't been here for a while because he died just after Christmas.

Yes, I agree about doing a final rinse.

So sorry to hear that about Don. I enjoyed chatting with him here and on another forum about music.

 

[Chop]

Thanks Tima. He was a good man.