Right now there is a 1" acoustic absorption panel on the rear wall behind the listening chair. At that short distance to the rear wall I definitely think some treatment is desirable.
I would prefer the ASC MatrixPanel.
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I would prefer the ASC MatrixPanel.
As an input to this, I can reveal, that I actually have a laying diffusing tubetrap right behind and down on the floor, my listening chair. Diffusing part facing back up towards my ears. Makes a cool ambience, and absorb reflecting bass frequences. A lot of trial and error went into this to get the right sound out of it… Now it works perfect.
/ Jk
Hi Tim,
I agree: this is part of the Black Arts. It's in that realm that takes quite some time to acquire knowledge, and where I look for expert counsel, which is genuinely hard come by. Fortunately, I have an audio guru who both knows and is Very generous with his experience and insight. Thanks to him, I have assembled a system that is WAY beyond what I ever thought possible, certainly beyond what I ever thought I would be able to assemble and enjoy. I am thrilled!
Cheers and Happy Holidays,
David
David, I sense the appreciation in your words. By taking good advice you ended up with a top-notch system. Kudos to both of you.
Thank You Tim.
You are, of course, right: I have staunch gratitude for both David Karmeli and Peter Ayer and the virtually endless contributions each has made to my reaching a point of fulfillment with my system.
Part of that comes from the 'black arts' level of David's astonishing gifts of passionate commitment and intuition, and another measure of respect I accord to Peter for his redoubtable application and rigorous, methodical, patient approach to assembling his system; that and perseverance he has brought to bear in taking his first system as far as it would allow, and then the courage to discard that and replace it *In Its Entirety* to assemble one of the two finest, most musically satisfying systems I have ever heard.
As with my immersion in the old car endeavor, the acquisition of pieces is just part of the process: the value of the camaraderie is the more valuable of the two, believe me. I feel more honored, by far, to consider these men my friends than to think of them as audio buddies.
I appreciate your both noticing my regard and for speaking to it.
Hope we can meet sometime over an SME tonearm...
Cheers
You are, of course, right: I have staunch gratitude for both David Karmeli and Peter Ayer and the virtually endless contributions each has made to my reaching a point of fulfillment with my system.
Part of that comes from the 'black arts' level of David's astonishing gifts of passionate commitment and intuition, and another measure of respect I accord to Peter for his redoubtable application and rigorous, methodical, patient approach to assembling his system; that and perseverance he has brought to bear in taking his first system as far as it would allow, and then the courage to discard that and replace it *In Its Entirety* to assemble one of the two finest, most musically satisfying systems I have ever heard.
As with my immersion in the old car endeavor, the acquisition of pieces is just part of the process: the value of the camaraderie is the more valuable of the two, believe me. I feel more honored, by far, to consider these men my friends than to think of them as audio buddies.
I appreciate your both noticing my regard and for speaking to it.
Hope we can meet sometime over an SME tonearm...
Cheers
new absorption panel arrangement
-- no panels on the front wall
-- thinner and narrower panels on the side walls more closely targeted to points of first and second reflection
-- this has the effect of removing two 4' x 8' absorption panels
Remember this zoomed out perspective makes the room like much bigger than it really is.
-- no panels on the front wall
-- thinner and narrower panels on the side walls more closely targeted to points of first and second reflection
-- this has the effect of removing two 4' x 8' absorption panels
Remember this zoomed out perspective makes the room like much bigger than it really is.
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So maximum zoomed out -- which makes the room look about three times larger than it really is -- you can see everything:
significantly less absorption overall
significantly less absorption overall
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I'm going to listen for a couple of hours this afternoon while hosting a guest.
The acoustic panels that Ron took out were obviously going to be used in Lola’s room… I’m not sure what speakers Lola is going to run with the VTLs though I’m guessing she won’t run with DSP… though as a good puppy she will clearly want proper woofers.
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Lola knows she's not allowed to bark in the listening room.
Good, I think. Maybe a touch livelier (good) but not edgier (good).
At the moment I think that the absorption panels on the front wall were a Band-Aid for edginess from ribbon driver break-in, brightness from Belden 1192A and neutrality from Siegfried IIs. I don't think the Band-Aid is necessary anymore. But I have to listen a lot more. Maybe I'll end up putting back a bit of absorption on the front wall, or maybe I'll experiment with 1D diffusors.
Don is coming over tonight, so I'll be curious to learn what he thinks.
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maybe this has already been brought up. but know that loose absorptive panels will sound differently that one's attached solidly to the walls. the space behind will add slight deadening and cause an additional tonal shift.
if you just used double backed velcro tape (or thumbtacs/push pins) to attach the corners to hold it relatively tight it would then be a little more consistent with what it's doing so expectations would match what you end up doing.