Why would the speakers take time to sound good? Assuming that they are played daily they should be good an broken in, no? I know of only Lowther drivers having a more or less constant break in throughout most of their lives and if not played for a while you are set back a bit in that break in phase (which can be 1000s of hours).I blame the speakers, the amp warmed up in about a hour on other speakers, it sounds good after about an hour, but magic starts after 2 hours playing time, not counting the one hour idle where just the power is turned on. The amps barely get warm, even after many hours of playing.The end result is worth waiting for, i still manage about 15 hours of concentrated listening a week, 3 times 5 to 6 hour sessions.
Ron’s New System
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You also seem to have this "collector" quality to your hobby ...I am the opposite where I am (was) a pure utilitarian...if it works it stays and if not it goes. A few exceptions is the pair of Odeon La Bohemes I still have, which I am so loathe to part with them because of their sky-high performance for the money paid. Also the Silvaweld phonostage and the Silvercore 2A3 integrated amp have turned out to be ridiculous value for the money. So, I guess I am starting to accumulate some things...
Active crossover and power for speakers in parts, different type drivers combining all dialed in at warmed up state ? Just guessing on why, but i hear it clearly every time i play.
I am the opposite, i keep almost everything, the few times i have traded something or gotten rid of it i have always regretted it and could have used it in a different setting for different purposes later. Still regret getting rid of my Nakamichi Dragon turntable and Dragon car radio/ cassette those were so cool in their own special way. My big Krell amps would have been nice on the bass in my second system these days.
You don't leave the active crossover on all the time? I leave my Accuphase F15L on 24/7 in my second system because it sounds like s&*T when first turned on...takes about a day and then it is pretty good (still want to use a tube xover eventually). As I said though, drivers in general, once broken in, don't really need warm up with the exception of some very stiff, low excursion, high sensitivity drivers.
I have my speakers and crossover on a PS Audio regenerator at 120 V, i hate leaving that thing on all day, they use a lot of power and break down once in a while. If you have a power out with the PS Audio on it blows the fuses in the crossover and speakers when it starts up again. I will have speakers and crossover converted to 230 V at some point, i should try a transformer, maybe the Statements are not frequency dependent.
Why is this?
We cannot assume that solid-state amps as a class are necessarily going to have more timing or phase or group delay issues than tube amps as a class.
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Why?Agree all SS is best ......
Me tube guy
No likey solid-state
Except REI
(read as a poem)
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Don't know REI, but tube guy as well. There's something about the flow of music on tubes...
No, he was twisting my position that all SS is the best and then he agrees with me. I wasn’t making any commentary on other misguided souls like yourself
Sorry to hear you are counting everyone as they were ”morons” as long as they don’t go tubes.No, he was twisting my position that all SS is the best and then he agrees with me. I wasn’t making any commentary on other misguided souls like yourself
Never have I been misguided regarding hifi, nor have I found tubes enhanced my system, even though I have tried tube amps here. Just doesn’t sound right.
There are soo many factors to it, what will work in one’s system, and what will not. Sometimes tubes can sound really good, other times solid state is the way to go.
In this case I don’t argree with you one bit.
And I won’t argue with you no more as I know what works and what doesn’t.
If you like tubes better then solid state, then I’m happy you have found your thing, but don’t say everyone is misguided because they don’t use tube amps as they are not suited for all systems.
Hope you have a wonderful weekend.
/ Jk
Never have you been misguided with hifi? Sure thing Johan…
You have a wonderful weekend as well.
I stopped reading Romy when he stated that FM radio provides the best sound quality of any medium.
I am loving the Trafomatic Audio Lara, but for the first time since 2020 I am having fun being a pure hobbyist and researching other line stages. So I am enjoying researching suggestions and soliciting experience-based comments on other pre-amps like c-j Art88 and Aries Incito S.
Have you had occasion to compare the Incito or Incito S to any of the usual pre-amp suspects in the USA, such as ARC, c-j, VAC or VTL?
Unfortunately Ron I haven't done a direct comparison .. I suspect that it is a more "precise" sound but that's just a vibe based on hisorical listening
I used a hacro dm10 pre for many years and the AC had all the attributes of the halcro plus increased engagment
I ended up purchasing the impera sig and it is next level .. I won't be looking at pre's again
Phil
I am happy for you that the Impera Sig is a final destination pre-amp for you!
Would you say the Incito S is a bit fuller or warmer or "bloomier" than Impera Sig?
In day-to-day practice doesn't it annoy you not to have a full set of controls on the preamp itself, as opposed to relying solely on a remote control?