Ron’s New System
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Have you heard “a touch of edginess“ from either of those cables or from a RadioShack cable? And if you have in a specific system context, did they do more harm than an audio file cable in the same system context? Please site specific examples.
I’m not saying you can’t find an industrial wire that does no harm. I am saying that that is one of the criteria that I prioritize when selecting wires. As before, you may have different values and targets, and that is just fine. I think you once stated that you want a cable to sound warm. If I heard a cable that sounded warm, I would keep looking.
This start to look like a gramatic course in english! Perhaps THAT will enhance the sound quality - who knows
I once owned fancy cables that enhanced aspects of the presentation. I sold them.
Hi Peter,
I know exactly what you mean, and it is kind of funny, cus I have experienced almost the same thing here. Once a dealer told me to bring all these fancy power cables home to ””enhance”” my system to the end of the world sort of thing… So I did.. brought home these fancy cables from a known manufacturer with the total value of around + / - $ 70.000 Dollars, although in Swedish money which is then a factor of ten generally speaking. Anyway… I plugged everything in and to be honest I couldn’t hear shit of a difference to what I already had, which then seemed good enough to keep without doing any changes.
Now…. to be clear: I don’t use any thin lamp-cords, just so you know, but fairly good cables and connectors all throughout my system. But most importantly, I have matched each of my cables to the specific component, by listening to different configurations of each cable and tried different combinations. THAT is really nerdy - I know.. LOL.. - but that has actually worked very well for my system. Power cable wise I’m almost done, although I still have the front subwoofer system that I need to give a little bit (more) cable love in the near future, but that’s about it.
/ Jk
That’s why I chose industrial wires over the RadioShack wires, which were quite good. I suppose doing the least harm is what I want in a wire and cord.
I figured I would throw in my 2c. Why not kick off the new year with some cable discussion. These are just my opinions dispose of them as you wish.
Why single out cables? All components editorialize the sound. Compare a 300B tube amp to pretty much any solid state amp. That is a pretty big knob to turn to swing the sound one direction or the other. And just like any other component, there are cables that sound very similar and there are cables that sound very different. Some cables are blurry and there are cables that are precise. The blurry cable will sound 'nice' -- some may call this 'warm' sounding. The precise cables will be articulate and clean -- some may call this analytical. It depends on what type of experience you are looking for with your stereo system. A loom of cables should be treated just like any other component. This 'component' has potentially the same level of impact as anything else -- preamp, amp etc.
These are just my opinions dispose of them as you wish.Why single out cables? All components editorialize the sound. Compare a 300B tube amp to pretty much any solid state amp. That is a pretty big knob to turn to swing the sound one direction or the other. And just like any other component, there are cables that sound very similar and there are cables that sound very different. Some cables are blurry and there are cables that are precise. The blurry cable will sound 'nice' -- some may call this 'warm' sounding. The precise cables will be articulate and clean -- some may call this analytical. It depends on what type of experience you are looking for with your stereo system. A loom of cables should be treated just like any other component. This 'component' has potentially the same level of impact as anything else -- preamp, amp etc.
More likely your fancy cable is not letting the edginess trough when it is on the recording, if it is only occasionally, and that is OK if it is your preference.
I hear an occasional touch of edginess from the Belden. I prefer the Cardas because it sounds more natural and organic to me.
I am not sure we have the same definition of "harm." If a cable sounds edgy, then I consider that to be a harm.
So, you use industrial wire as well?More likely your fancy cable is not letting the edginess trough when it is on the recording, if it is only occasionally, and that is OK if it is your preference.
I figured I would throw in my 2c. Why not kick off the new year with some cable discussion.
Why single out cables? All components editorialize the sound. Compare a 300B tube amp to pretty much any solid state amp. That is a pretty big knob to turn to swing the sound one direction or the other. And just like any other component, there are cables that sound very similar and there are cables that sound very different. Some cables are blurry and there are cables that are precise. The blurry cable will sound 'nice' -- some may call this 'warm' sounding. The precise cables will be articulate and clean -- some may call this analytical. It depends on what type of experience you are looking for with your stereo system. A loom of cables should be treated just like any other component. This 'component' has potentially the same level of impact as anything else -- preamp, amp etc.
Yes why not .
If you have a system of good components you don t really need expensive cables.
I can spend 10 K on a tapedeck with some good quality tapes and can reach a SQ which goes well beyond .
I ve been hearing an enourmous amount of gear over the past 3 - 4 years and it wasnt the cables that made the big difference imo.
No not at all, i prefer pure copper cables with a neutral sound. Silver is often too focused on treble energy for my taste, some of the more muffled copper cables are too dull. Some Cardas cables are in that " muffled" category, i also had the impression Ron preferred a warmish cable.
I have owned Cardas Golden Reference and Straightwire Virtuoso in that category.
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Ron, why do you think the edginess from Belden was only on occasion and not always? If you never hear that same edginess with the Cardas, how do you know the cable is causing it?
Are you now saying the Belden sounds "edgy"? It may in your system. I would suspect it is the cable if you hear it consistently. If not, it might be the recording, or the cable is revealing something on some notes or in some circumstances that the Cardas is not. It does not really matter if you prefer the Cardas, but all I am asking is how do you know it is the cable?
I attribute characteristics to a cable if I hear harm or the same coloration (edginess) across all recordings, consistently, and then if it goes away with another cable consistently. But this is not what you seem to be describing when you write that you only hear it on occasion.
Do all silver cable manufacturers source from the same mine?
No, and some sound different, i have just never encountered one i liked the sound of. They often go well hand in hand with the muffled sound of tubes.
I have never tried a silver transformer. Do you mean silver step-ups or power supply transformers ?