Should a member be allowed to make a post which is AI generated or AI mixed without disclosing such use of AI as part of the post?

[Steve williams]

Steve, I appreciate you chiming in, but I’ve got to call you out on a few things here.

First off, mentioning that this guy is a professor at the University of Lisbon doesn’t really prove anything about the argument at hand. It’s a classic appeal to authority that doesn’t actually address the technical points being debated.

You say this professor is “modest and at many times can be contentious,” but that’s not relevant to whether his arguments about cable design are correct or not. We should be focusing on the evidence and reasoning, not on someone’s personality or credentials.

Also, throwing in that “IIRC” (if I remember correctly) is a bit of a hedge. Either you know his position or you don’t. If we’re going to bring up someone’s credentials in a technical debate, we should be certain about them.

Look, I get that you’re trying to add some weight to the argument by mentioning this professor. But in a discussion about the technical merits of cable design, what matters is the evidence and the logic behind the claims, not who’s making them.

gaslighting as usual...a classic ploy

 

[Rensselaer]

Now in my own words:

AI does not think for you but rather is a tool that you can use to collate information, test the validity of your argument or thought, and better communicate your ideas to a target audience. Going forward, there will be two kinds of humans: those who understand and use AI, and everyone else. The “everyone else” side will find themselves at an increasing disadvantage.

For the record, I am using AI now to radically accelerate the evolution of Synergistic Research technologies I pioneered over the past 30 years. Now, when a new product is launched, it’s not a next-gen evolution; it’s five or six generations advanced because we’re able to leapfrog from one generation to the next, extrapolating our data, testing against art in non-related fields that may correlate to what we’ve been doing in-house, and ultimately, dramatically moving the ball forward in terms of our products’ performance. Ultimately, all of this serves one purpose: to improve subjective outcomes for our products—the most human thing possible.

Again, AI is not a magic eight ball; it won’t make an idiot intelligent, but it will make a highly intelligent person a genius, and a genius an Albert Einstein or Nikola Tesla.

Again, more advertising. How much in profits have you made since starting your thread about tweaks, etc., that make a difference?

 

[treitz3]

What is coming through to me loud and clear on this thread is that we hobbyists do not want to read on our hobby forum what AI is producing. We would rather stay with authentic -- if less than perfect -- spelling, grammar and syntax. We do not want polished or perfect-sounding or robot-sounding posts. We do not want posts to read as homogenized gradually over time. It is as simple as that.

Pretty obvious at this point.

I think it is great that you are finding AI useful in your professional life. What we hobbyists want to read here is <snip>

Please allow me to stop you right there. In taking a look at the poll results? They speak for themself. The poll still resides at a 90/10 split. That's pretty clear evidence that members overwhelmingly prefer that any AI generated posts not be allowed to be posted on the WBF, without disclosing as such.

Translation - Please a take a look at your first quoted text in this post.

It is very simple to avoid friction over AI with other members. Do not run your draft WBF posts through AI before posting. We would rather see spelling mistakes and imperfect grammar.

Agreed.

Members-only clubs have rules. No AI is WBF informal culture.

No issue there. Agreed.

Tom

 

[microstrip]

Just for the records as I know microstrip is modest and at many times can be contentious but for the record IIRC he is a professor of electrical engineering at the University of Lisbon.

In fact I am not, Steve. I am better than that for the purpose of this particular discussion with Ted , but I stay anonymous in the forum and would like to go on in such condition. As expected, when Ted understood that his arguments were unmasked and his pseudo-science was exposed to be false and careless he tried to switch to personal insinuations and fight - no doubt he surely will be much better than me in such areas. I regret it.

I am not addressing how his products sound - just addressing objective facts that can be quantified - something he does not like.

 

[thedudeabides]

This is not a hypothetical. Folks are already doing this experiment. This NY Times article quotes a columnist who claimed to have let AI make all decisions for her for a whole week, including what should I wear, what should I cook etc. We are beginning a new era in humanity when machines will do the thinking for us and we’ll wander around like zombies.

The next logical progression from cell phones, Alexa, Gemini and Siri. And let us not forget HAL, Kubrick's computer name in 1968 in the movie 2001 A Space Odyssey.

Trivia. What's the nexus of the name HAL? And you must promise that you won't use Google or any other AI derivative to research the answer.

 

[Steve williams]

IBM...a very well known fact

 

[thedudeabides]

IBM...a very well known fact

You're no fun.

 

[Steve williams]

You're no fun.

H-A-L are the three letters before I-B-M

 

[thedudeabides]

OK smarty pants. Dreyfuss's computer name in 2010?

 

[PYP]

Will someone ask AI if ozempic reduces the craving for buying audio equipment? Thanks!

 

[Argonaut]

In fact I am not, Steve. I am better than that for the purpose of this particular discussion with Ted , but I stay anonymous in the forum and would like to go on in such condition. As expected, when Ted understood that his arguments were unmasked and his pseudo-science was exposed to be false and careless he tried to switch to personal insinuations and fight - no doubt he surely will be much better than me in such areas. I regret it.

I am not addressing how his products sound - just addressing objective facts that can be quantified - something he does not like.

Why are you laughing at this post Denny ? How about debating the points that @microstrip has made.!

 

[andromedaaudio]

Will someone ask AI if ozempic reduces the craving for buying audio equipment? Thanks!

Audiophiles love big expensive looking cables with Classy sounding names
The boxes in between are just a side show , the more the better .
Becomes more boxes.......,means more cables .

To reel the desire in you got to limit the cables first .
No cables means nothing to connect /no new purchases

 

[PYP]

Audiophiles love big expensive looking cables with Classy sounding names
The boxes in between are just a side show , the more the better .
Becomes more boxes.......,means more cables .

To reel the desire in you got to limit the cables first .
No cables means nothing to connect /no new purchases

That is one thing I like about the Grimm MU2 streamer/DAC. Not only do you not need a fancy cable between the streamer and DAC, the limitation of using something like AES/EBU is avoided yielding a very lyrical presentation. Some upscale manufacturers are creating their own protocols/cables, but it is more economical to simply put the streamer and DAC in one box. Of course, the design has to mitigate the problems of proximity too.

The main gear/cables/speaker are fixed for my setup. I may need ozempic to reduce the compulsive desire for upstream improvements. Ever since I started using AI to tell me when to switch on a light, my will power has faded drastically.

 

[Ted Denney III]

I saw that a few pages after I asked the questions.


We should take this somewhere else… but where?

Hotel? What are you wearing? Lol

 

[PYP]

Hotel? What are you wearing? Lol

obviously an AI response!

Reminds me of the reporter who got into a deep conversation with an early version of a chat bot. It went on awhile until the AI proclaimed: I love you.

 

[Lagonda]

obviously an AI response!

Reminds me of the reporter who got into a deep conversation with an early version of a chat bot. It went on awhile until the AI proclaimed: I love you.

I would not mind communicating with a Robot if it had the humor that Ted obviously possesses, he might be slightly "enhanced " but definitely human !

 

[PYP]

I would not mind communicating with a Robot if it had the humor that Ted obviously possesses, he might be slightly "enhanced " but definitely human !

"augmented" might also be a descriptor...

 

[PYP]

I would not mind communicating with a Robot if it had the humor that Ted obviously possesses, he might be slightly "enhanced " but definitely human !

you naughty fellows might be interested in this NOS Tube Unboxing photo shoot! https://www.whatsbestforum.com/threads/love-taking-pics-of-the-gear.38964/post-1031554

What has happened to the family-oriented WBF? Damn AI.

 

[Ted Denney III]

you naughty fellows might be interested in this NOS Tube Unboxing photo shoot! https://www.whatsbestforum.com/threads/love-taking-pics-of-the-gear.38964/post-1031554

What has happened to the family-oriented WBF? Damn AI.

The tube on the right, it’s so big.

 

[Ted Denney III]

Will someone ask AI if ozempic reduces the craving for buying audio equipment? Thanks!

Well, it doesn’t help with the urge to buy more knives and motorcycles.