Swiss Digital Fuse Box Anyone?

Hi Tom @treitz3

Thanks for posting this! I was looking at trying the SDFB w/ this short SRA but was wondering if you can advise as to the difference between these two options above? I've never tried the SRA products and this would be for a Riviera AIC10 amp.

Thanks!
Keith

Thanks for your patience. That's a very nice integrated headphone amp ya' have there! I have many words to say about the Signature AMP series but I will offer you a "Cliff notes" version, that highlights just a few of the attributes of that PC.

It didn't take but about 2 seconds after first plugging it in and powering up, to hear that this was not a typical power cord swap. I was surprised at just how much of the sonic soundscaping had changed immediately upon hitting play. The tonal characteristics, I immediately fell in love with….along with the silence of the black background. A great sense of calm, even when the music is playing. It doesn't matter whether it's a soft or heavy passage either. It's clearly heard (or rather not heard). I have tied up a lot of money over the years on various brands and levels of power cords but I have not ever heard a PC make THIS big of a change. This is the first time that I have ever considered a power cord as an "actual component" within my system.

In all my journey, I have never been truly impressed with a PC. Yeah, I may prefer one over another for certain locations but I have never had one stand so far out from the crowd that it became an actual component within the system. Getting the speakers to disappear became a breeze. Of all of the audiophile boxes that need to be checked, this one delivered.

There is absolutely no boom at the bottom but with complete visceral impact, palpability and authority with texture and a differentiation of subtleties that you just have to hear. Extremely musical! That tone is simply to die for and I cannot state that enough. Especially when it comes to horns and vocals. I would say that this is their best attribute. That wonderful tone.

Now, when it comes to the Takshaka's? As great as the Signature AMP series were/are....these Takshaka's are simply on another level of playback capability. They are really top notch PC's that excel on pretty much anything and everything even the most demanding audiophile would want to listen for. The Takshaka's were not just another flavor of music or a lateral swap. It was quite the change, especially in the sheer weight of voices and instruments. They kept all of the attributes of the Signature but took the sound to a whole other level. Both in what you hear...and what you don't.

I'll invite you to read a post Steve Williams made, when he auditioned the Takshaka PC in his own system. I'll echo his sonic observations, even though I haven't done a direct comparison between these and the Masterbuilt Ultra's that he uses.

https://www.whatsbestforum.com/threads/a-diamond-in-the-rough-snake-river-audio.40102/post-1023415

Honestly, you can't really go wrong with either because they both make such a wonderful change to what your ears are presented with. Both offer that 3-D wraparound, "suck you into the music" reality and both have that killer tone and low noise floor/calm background that Snake River Audio is so well known for.

Once again, for the record. I have zero affiliation with Snake River Audio. I am just a very happy customer who really enjoys listening to Jonny's offerings on a daily basis. I am actually listening, as I type this out. I simply could not be happier with what I am hearing. To me, it's like listening to a slice of heaven here on Earth.

Tom
 
Jonny is good. He even hand delivered cables to me in Montana on his way to APOXNA one year.The one thing that caught my attention about the current cords is that both pc’s are voiced neutral; it’s mentioned on his site. Since I like a touch of warmth, that’s put my audition on the back burner for now.
 
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I'm thinking about dropping a slug into my amps just to see. Find a piece of 20mm solid copper and polish it well, then deoxit it. Then insert it and listen. That would give me a good idea if I would gain much from a SDFB
 
I'm thinking about dropping a slug into my amps just to see. Find a piece of 20mm solid copper and polish it well, then deoxit it. Then insert it and listen. That would give me a good idea if I would gain much from a SDFB
That is what I did.
 
Did you hear anything? What did you use.
Well yes I did hear a difference, more detail and seemed as the background was darker, relaxed, quiet. Have a friend who ordered the SDFB with assortments of slugs. He sent me the Gold immersion and Copper to try. I preferred the Gold Immersion and ordered that with my SDFB. Was going to just buy a copper rod in the same diameter as my fuses.
 
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Well yes I did hear a difference, more detail and seemed as the background was darker, relaxed, quiet. Have a friend who ordered the SDFB with assortments of slugs. He sent me the Gold immersion and Copper to try. I preferred the Gold Immersion and ordered that with my SDFB. Was going to just buy a copper rod in the same diameter as my fuses.

Curious about real-world comparisons of Super Sluggo vs Graphene.
 
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Curious about real-world comparisons of Super Sluggo vs Graphene.
Graphene should have benefits that are superior to the Gold Immersion. As a ME, Metallurgist, working in Tribology we have seen great benefits using graphene in highspeed bearings, robotics, and linear motion control in aerospace applications.

 
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What is real world?

Subjective sonic opinions from those who have given both a fair shake in their system. I'm sure there are technical differences and crystalline uniformity of graphene over extruded/annealed brass that I've love for you to tell me over a bottle, but to me the priority is making sure it sounds good. Even if it's made of slime I'd try it if it sounds amazing.
 
Subjective sonic opinions from those who have given both a fair shake in their system. I'm sure there are technical differences and crystalline uniformity of graphene over extruded/annealed brass that I've love for you to tell me over a bottle, but to me the priority is making sure it sounds good. Even if it's made of slime I'd try it if it sounds amazing.
No brass just copper. Graphene is coated over the Super Sluggo.
 
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And which one sounds better?

Before the graphene was available, Mark recommended the brass as being best for someone who prefers a bit of warmth. That’s what I ended up with in my GG 2/3 dac, over the super whatever. While I have a full set of brass for swapping, I haven’t found the graphenes everywhere else incompatible with that outcome, although I have not made direct comparisons. The graphenes are more detailed and perhaps more open and transparent and present. I suspect the difference is readily audible once fully burned in, but don’t know that it’s night and day.
 
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Subjective sonic opinions from those who have given both a fair shake in their system. I'm sure there are technical differences and crystalline uniformity of graphene over extruded/annealed brass that I've love for you to tell me over a bottle, but to me the priority is making sure it sounds good. Even if it's made of slime I'd try it if it sounds amazing.
My report is very much YMMV. I started with two SDFB units and an assortment of different sluggos well before the graphene and rhodium options became available. In my system at that time, I thought the differences were very marginal, whether a SDFB was connected or not, no matter which sluggo was used. I had a slight preference with the SDFB connected to my Taiko Extreme, and a slight preference without the SDFB connected to my Lampi Pacific. I didn't experience the dramatic upgrades that many others reported. Overall, I preferred the pure copper sluggo over the gold-infused sluggo because I could detect a tiny amount of smearing with the latter.

To me, the graphene sluggo was the singular game-changer. I bought one on a whim and immediately it sounded like a decisive and broad-based improvement, and kept getting better. It's just more dynamic, more precise, more detailed and ultimately more engaging musically. That led me to re-connect the second, unused SDFB after I bought a second graphene sluggo, and later I bought a third SDFB (of course with another graphene sluggo). And I will probably acquire a fourth set in the near future.
 
Hello All

Lots of adapter information of late. Peter Madnick and have been ruminating of how to approach this for quite some time. I've got a few minutes while I wait where I am, so why not use the time wisely

Our Adapter uses a cut down version of our Main Stream and SnubWay shell with a "trap door" - inside you will find 2 x 30Amp Audiophile Approved 30-amp Fuse Holders.

We use these as a connection on both the Line and Neutral legs + Ground is passed directly through with serious wire.

The fuse holders allow you to use our Sluggos. This quite literally allows you to TUNE your AC with SDFB and your Mains.

Works SUPER WELL. - we have been fooling around with Graphene (of course) and Super Sluggp... But HP Copper and Brass are also cool.

Showing you our working model here. Pricing to follow - but will stay with our "HUMANE PRICING FORMULA"

Fun stuff... This is The Answer in our opinion

Many thanks "

Mark

OH, we will reprise our Original Black Friday Deal on SDFB this weekend. Lots of people asking...
 

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Hello All

Lots of adapter information of late. Peter Madnick and have been ruminating of how to approach this for quite some time. I've got a few minutes while I wait where I am, so why not use the time wisely

Our Adapter uses a cut down version of our Main Stream and SnubWay shell with a "trap door" - inside you will find 2 x 30Amp Audiophile Approved 30-amp Fuse Holders.

We use these as a connection on both the Line and Neutral legs + Ground is passed directly through with serious wire.

The fuse holders allow you to use our Sluggos. This quite literally allows you to TUNE your AC with SDFB and your Mains.

Works SUPER WELL. - we have been fooling around with Graphene (of course) and Super Sluggp... But HP Copper and Brass are also cool.

Showing you our working model here. Pricing to follow - but will stay with our "HUMANE PRICING FORMULA"

Fun stuff... This is The Answer in our opinion

Many thanks "

Mark

OH, we will reprise our Original Black Friday Deal on SDFB this weekend. Lots of people asking...
Looks interesting Mark...

Will there be something coming for those of us in EU as well?

Currently I need to use TWO adaptors to be able to use my Ansuz Schuko power cable into the component.

Thanks!
 
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Hello All

Lots of adapter information of late. Peter Madnick and have been ruminating of how to approach this for quite some time. I've got a few minutes while I wait where I am, so why not use the time wisely

Our Adapter uses a cut down version of our Main Stream and SnubWay shell with a "trap door" - inside you will find 2 x 30Amp Audiophile Approved 30-amp Fuse Holders.

We use these as a connection on both the Line and Neutral legs + Ground is passed directly through with serious wire.

The fuse holders allow you to use our Sluggos. This quite literally allows you to TUNE your AC with SDFB and your Mains.

Works SUPER WELL. - we have been fooling around with Graphene (of course) and Super Sluggp... But HP Copper and Brass are also cool.

Showing you our working model here. Pricing to follow - but will stay with our "HUMANE PRICING FORMULA"

Fun stuff... This is The Answer in our opinion

Many thanks "

Mark

OH, we will reprise our Original Black Friday Deal on SDFB this weekend. Lots of people asking...
Hi Mark.
I’m sorry but I’m a bit confused. You put a (graphene) Sluggo in your amp to make the SDFB work. Are you saying you need to put another Sluggo into your adapter to make it work? Why not just hardwire the adapter?
 
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Hi Mark.
I’m sorry but I’m a bit confused. You put a (graphene) Sluggo in your amp to make the SDFB work. Are you saying you need to put another Sluggo into your adapter to make it work? Why not just hardwire the adapter?
Yep agreed, no need for sluggo in the adaptor
 
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