I have not given much thought to using the SDFB's on my subs (pair of REL 212/SE) however given your positive outcome, I will give the SDFB a try with my subs...thanks for the idea.
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I have 3 SDFB's plugged into a Shunyata Denali using the Amazon adaptor. For the Denali I do not need to stagger as they are in 3 consecutive outlets that are arranged East/West(horizontal). I also have a Shunyata Everest. In the Everest the outlets are arranged North/South(vertical) so I would need to stagger SDFB's.
Republicoftexas69
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No I don't see any point in using them on a subwoofer. Just my opinion. May work great....
@Republicoftexas69
Large contingent of REL and others that would not agree with you re use on Subs.
Quickie guess - maybe 60 to 70 sold for this purpose...
You know me well enough to know that I'm just tell it like it is.
Large contingent of REL and others that would not agree with you re use on Subs.
Quickie guess - maybe 60 to 70 sold for this purpose...
You know me well enough to know that I'm just tell it like it is.
Mark, you teased us recently with your testing of adaptors with the SDFB. Any estimate on timing? I do want to try the SDFB's on my subs but would really look forward on your thoughts of a SDFB w/adaptor.
You will love them on the subs 
The AC Tuning x Adaptor will be out in 60 to 90 days. We own the tooling for the shell (same as Mainstream and SnubWay - just cut down to size.
We have already order 500 of the 30-amp Fuse Holders - so maybe not too long.
Using Graphene in the Hot and Neutral sort of blew my mind. Same for HP Copper too. Differences were NOT subtle note please that GROUND is not fused - never (@MattSPL please take note).
Tuning works.
They are working on the slide door this weekend. It's going to look the part for sure.
I will try to post some further information next week.
Thanks - Mark
The AC Tuning x Adaptor will be out in 60 to 90 days. We own the tooling for the shell (same as Mainstream and SnubWay - just cut down to size.
We have already order 500 of the 30-amp Fuse Holders - so maybe not too long.
Using Graphene in the Hot and Neutral sort of blew my mind. Same for HP Copper too. Differences were NOT subtle note please that GROUND is not fused - never (@MattSPL please take note).
Tuning works.
They are working on the slide door this weekend. It's going to look the part for sure.
I will try to post some further information next week.
Thanks - Mark
Outstanding! I will try to be patient. Are you taking pre-orders?You will love them on the subs
The AC Tuning x Adaptor will be out in 60 to 90 days. We own the tooling for the shell (same as Mainstream and SnubWay - just cut down to size.
We have already order 500 of the 30-amp Fuse Holders - so maybe not too long.
Using Graphene in the Hot and Neutral sort of blew my mind. Same for HP Copper too. Differences were NOT subtle note please that GROUND is not fused - never (@MattSPL please take note).
Tuning works.
They are working on the slide door this weekend. It's going to look the part for sure.
I will try to post some further information next week.
Thanks - Mark
Fantastic news, Mark. So glad to hear of this.
As for a SDFB on the subs? Please allow me to offer you this, for those who may be interested in trying these devices out on your subs. These are just my thoughts, along with my own personal observations over the years.
For years, I have always found PC's and IC's on subs to have a profound affect on the sub's output. With every swap I have ever made (bar none), I have always had to readjust the output and settings on the subs. In my case, I have two Rythmik F-25's. They are definitely not the SOTA, TOTL sub, like Pure Low, or say, a REL six pack, but they definitely are no slouch either. Even slight changes can make or break the sonic attributes/deficiencies of the lowest registers, how they gel with the mains, how they gel with the room, and how all of this ends up working together, as one cohesive system.
Just recently, I upgraded my PC's in all of the critical parts of my system. This allowed me to take my existing PC's and place them on the subs. The change was surprisingly dramatic compared to other PC swap outs, and the subs didn't even sound like they were the same subs at all. I always knew that PC's affected the subs, but when I actually put in a great PC, instead of whatever I had laying around from existing systems? It opened up a whole new sonic world for me.
That said, I now consider the cables going to the subs as a critical part of the system, and not just an afterthought. I haven't even tried one of these SDFB's yet, but knowing what I know now (concerning cables to the subs), I will most definitely be trying out the SDFB on both of the subs. Any way I can remove a bottle neck that holds the system back? I want it done. FWIW.
Tom
As for a SDFB on the subs? Please allow me to offer you this, for those who may be interested in trying these devices out on your subs. These are just my thoughts, along with my own personal observations over the years.
For years, I have always found PC's and IC's on subs to have a profound affect on the sub's output. With every swap I have ever made (bar none), I have always had to readjust the output and settings on the subs. In my case, I have two Rythmik F-25's. They are definitely not the SOTA, TOTL sub, like Pure Low, or say, a REL six pack, but they definitely are no slouch either. Even slight changes can make or break the sonic attributes/deficiencies of the lowest registers, how they gel with the mains, how they gel with the room, and how all of this ends up working together, as one cohesive system.
Just recently, I upgraded my PC's in all of the critical parts of my system. This allowed me to take my existing PC's and place them on the subs. The change was surprisingly dramatic compared to other PC swap outs, and the subs didn't even sound like they were the same subs at all. I always knew that PC's affected the subs, but when I actually put in a great PC, instead of whatever I had laying around from existing systems? It opened up a whole new sonic world for me.
That said, I now consider the cables going to the subs as a critical part of the system, and not just an afterthought. I haven't even tried one of these SDFB's yet, but knowing what I know now (concerning cables to the subs), I will most definitely be trying out the SDFB on both of the subs. Any way I can remove a bottle neck that holds the system back? I want it done. FWIW.
Tom
@jaxdr
Not as yet - but soon
We will allow those that want to trade in their Piggy Tail for AC Tuning x
For sure,,,
Best = Mark
Not as yet - but soon
We will allow those that want to trade in their Piggy Tail for AC Tuning x
For sure,,,
Best = Mark
Republicoftexas69
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I have used both HP Copper and Graphene
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I'm not from Texas - but since living here I have learned a lot about speaking my mind - in THAT, until you try it, you don't have a point of reference
All opinions welcome - but these plate amps like the SDFB love too
I have used both HP Copper and Graphene
@Republicoftexas69
I'm not from Texas - but since living here I have learned a lot about speaking my mind - in THAT, until you try it, you don't have a point of reference
All opinions welcome - but these plate amps like the SDFB love too
I’m using graphene successfully so far, nearing 500 hours. I chose them to be consistent with the ATCs. I would wonder, though, if the perceived difference between sluggos would be as evident with most subs as with main speakers or other components.
Republicoftexas69
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And that is fine. I will keep my point of reference and money.
Hi Tom @treitz3
Thanks for posting this! I was looking at trying the SDFB w/ this short SRA but was wondering if you can advise as to the difference between these two options above? I've never tried the SRA products and this would be for a Riviera AIC10 amp.
Thanks!
Keith
Republicoftexas69
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The pig tails are nowhere near that price from Jonny. You also don't need to purchase any more than an adapter, if you so choose. I spoke with Jonny (owner/designer at Snake River Audio) about making the pig tails for the SDFB because I thought that the pig tails that were offered (at the current time) available, would hinder or restrict things.
During discussions either here or elsewhere, Mark even admitted this. Plus, Mark makes some damned fine products at a price point that is very reasonable for consumers.
In my case, I have already invested in the Takshaka PC's. On pretty much any level, this is an outstanding PC, even for the most discerning audiophile. I would love to add the SDFB to eliminate a QSA R&B fuse (at multiple times the price of the SDFB, BTW). A handful of folks have already done this and all who did, lost the QSA fuse and are using the SDFB, meanwhile reporting excellent sonic reports after doing just that.
So yeah, I will be going with a pigtail that actually costs more than the SDFB itself. Now, that's just me. Anyone is welcome to choose their own path. There are currently many more options for the pig tail....and Mark even has more options in the works.
Maybe if you hear what it is I do, from my own system, you would understand why I would to go this route. Anything I can do to prevent a bottleneck? Well, I want it done and my path (or others) doesn't necessarily need to be the one you would choose to take.
@keithc - Please allow me to get back with you on that answer this weekend. Thanks.
Tom
Use the drop-drop down menu for the cable at SRA. 8" is at the bottom. But yeah, if you get more than one SDFB, the idea of several hundred dollar 8" cords doesn't sit as well.
Yeah, I'm not too excited about that either, but I want no restrictions. Especially on the power path. As mentioned before, why would you go from your preferred sound out of an $X,000.00 PC, into the SDFB (which has no restrictions, along with the Sluggo of choice), only to be restricted to a pig tail that doesn't offer, or may not even come close to offering what the loss of the fuse and current PC was.
It's just a option. Right now, there are options that range from $20 to $700. Some folks would be perfectly comfortable with the $20 adapter option. Others may not. That's why options are always a good thing. For me personally, I do not want to alter (or would like to minimize) any changes in sound signature characteristics from my current PC. I only want to introduce the SDFB and get all of the benefits, without any restrictions. YMMV.
Since there seems to be a bit of confusion with the SRA pig tail prices, here is a direct link to both again. With each link, use the drop down box and select the 8" length for the pig tail.
Takshaka - https://snakeriveraudio.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=5&products_id=297
Signature AMP Series - https://snakeriveraudio.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=5&products_id=38
From our friends at Audio Sensibility, there is also a SDFB AC connector. This is available as a simple connector, and it's also offered at a 1' length. https://audiosensibility.com/blog/products-2/power-cables-2/#!/SDFB-AC-Connector/p/726442470
Also, Mark Schifter with Veri-Fi Audio has some new products that are coming soon (to be announced) that will offer even further options for the SDFB. Veri-Fi already has some pig tail options that are currently available for the SDFB.
Tom
It's just a option. Right now, there are options that range from $20 to $700. Some folks would be perfectly comfortable with the $20 adapter option. Others may not. That's why options are always a good thing. For me personally, I do not want to alter (or would like to minimize) any changes in sound signature characteristics from my current PC. I only want to introduce the SDFB and get all of the benefits, without any restrictions. YMMV.
Since there seems to be a bit of confusion with the SRA pig tail prices, here is a direct link to both again. With each link, use the drop down box and select the 8" length for the pig tail.
Takshaka - https://snakeriveraudio.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=5&products_id=297
Signature AMP Series - https://snakeriveraudio.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=5&products_id=38
From our friends at Audio Sensibility, there is also a SDFB AC connector. This is available as a simple connector, and it's also offered at a 1' length. https://audiosensibility.com/blog/products-2/power-cables-2/#!/SDFB-AC-Connector/p/726442470
Also, Mark Schifter with Veri-Fi Audio has some new products that are coming soon (to be announced) that will offer even further options for the SDFB. Veri-Fi already has some pig tail options that are currently available for the SDFB.
Tom
Republicoftexas69
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For giggles I may try my LossLess Entropic’s…. Even though the Amazon Adapters work better than Marks pigtails in my system.YMMV.
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