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I am running 1311. I haven’t updated since updating may make Roon inoperable based on the Discord conversation. The Roon update process has changed and there is no longer a RoonServer-only install file.
 
Monday I installed a Torus WM 100 BAL Isolation Transformer. Got everything wired, sounding great right out of the "box". The electrician just stood there with his mouth open, stayed for several tracks. All week I'm thrilled with what I am hearing with Roon. What ever day it was in which I was prompted to do the UPDATE, to 1353, I noticed the dynamics was dull, no air, just not right. Yesterday I'm listening all day and the dynamics just didn't sound right. So I attribute it to the Torus Unit Breaking in. Never thinking it was ROON! Just a little while ago it dawned on me to switch to XDMS. Boom!! Everything back, instantly! I have never had Roon sound this dull...
 
I am running 1311. I haven’t updated since updating may make Roon inoperable based on the Discord conversation. The Roon update process has changed and there is no longer a RoonServer-only install file.
Its operable, but it sounds like complete shit. I take it there is now way to roll the version back to 1311?
 
Monday I installed a Torus WM 100 BAL Isolation Transformer. Got everything wired, sounding great right out of the "box". The electrician just stood there with his mouth open, stayed for several tracks. All week I'm thrilled with what I am hearing with Roon. What ever day it was in which I was prompted to do the UPDATE, to 1353, I noticed the dynamics was dull, no air, just not right. Yesterday I'm listening all day and the dynamics just didn't sound right. So I attribute it to the Torus Unit Breaking in. Never thinking it was ROON! Just a little while ago it dawned on me to switch to XDMS. Boom!! Everything back, instantly! I have never had Roon sound this dull...

Given that you changed 2 things in your system you can’t be sure what the effect of each was. How did the sound of XDMS compare before and after the transformer install?

You should be able to install the old build of Roon but I would contact tech support for instructions.
 
Given that you changed 2 things in your system you can’t be sure what the effect of each was. How did the sound of XDMS compare before and after the transformer install?

You should be able to install the old build of Roon but I would contact tech support for instructions.
This is clearly a result of updating to 1353. Roon sounded great until the update. XDMS is sounding fantastic, if it was the Torus Break in the dynamics I would think would be compromised in both Roon/XDMS. Before the update flip a coin between Roon/XDMS. I contacted support to see if we can roll back...
 
Just did a reboot, maybe the build "responds" properly" after a reboot?
 
@Kris .. You are comparing different lengths of the same standard Ethernet cable? What lengths?

Im going to compare my current 70’ cat6 to single mode fiber.

But I don’t think I would be able to hear differences between shorter cat6 cables!

Tahats my system probabbly.
Emile mentioned I am different that anyone else here . I take it as compliment.

Yes I have same lenghts of the same Ethernet cable 1m, 3 m , 5 m, 8m, 15m , 20 m each is different.
I am not trying to say whats best. All I want to know is what Emile has.
He tuned his system to that.
My plan is to try to hear how that is far from my „optimum„ form testing.
 
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It appears the 2 reboots I had to do, has the stars realigned? Fingers Crossed...
 
Just a quick note as I have other things to attend to. I’ve been on 1353 core for a while, maybe a week? 1352 on the iPad remote. I’m not complaining about the SQ, but there is an issue with XDMS. Nothing plays when toggled to Roon. Both Roon and XDMS can play when toggled to XDMS, at the same time!

I contacted support a couple days ago. Still waiting for resolution.
 
The latest update with Roon, dull, flat, uninspiring. Been listening to Roon for several weeks, has been sounding great. Now after the latest update, the aforementioned observations. WTF!! XDMS compared to what I am hearing now with Roon, blows it out of the water! Not close! Frustrating!! It "was" very close between the two...I don't understand this shit...BTW I'm on build 1353, latest version on the Extreme, and 1303 on the ipad. No latest update given to me for the ipad...
Latest ipad version is in the ipad A application,
update it
 
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I am running 1311. I haven’t updated since updating may make Roon inoperable based on the Discord conversation. The Roon update process has changed and there is no longer a RoonServer-only install file.
Yes I went via this.
the only way to fix it was to delete Roon and install it again. I did it myself but got instructions from Ed. Thank you Ed !
 
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John, does your XDMS/Roon toggle function properly?
NO! When you toggle between the 2, when you go back to Roon NO AUDIO DEVICE FOUND and it flashes back and forth, it find it for a split second, then it can't...
 
Lates ipad version is in the ipad A application,
update it
Kris explain as if I had a full frontal lobotomy!
 
Its operable, but it sounds like complete shit. I take it there is now way to roll the version back to 1311?

Same here . I was 99% of the time on Roon as it was better than XDMD.
From yesterday I am 99 % of the time on XDMS.
Shit is very accurate.

Actually There are 2 applications now both uptodate .
Roon that is 1353 and Roon Server that is 1311.
1352 on the remote
 
NO! When you toggle between the 2, when you go back to Roon NO AUDIO DEVICE FOUND and it flashes back and forth, it find it for a split second, then it can't...

Then how did you hear Roon? I guess you listened initially and then switched back to XDMS and now can't switch back?
 
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Same here . I was 99% of the time on Roon as it was better than XDMD.
From yesterday I am 99 % of the time on XDMS.
Shit is very accurate.

Actually There are 2 applications now both uptodate .
Roon that is 1353 and Roon Server that is 1311.
1352 on the remote
How do
Then how did you hear Roon? I guess you listened initially and then switched back to XDMS and now can't switch back?
If you do multiple reboots Roon will be found...PITA...
 
How do

If you do multiple reboots Roon will be found...PITA...

Remember, a reboot does affect the sound for a while...
 
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Same here . I was 99% of the time on Roon as it was better than XDMD.
From yesterday I am 99 % of the time on XDMS.
Shit is very accurate.

Actually There are 2 applications now both uptodate .
Roon that is 1353 and Roon Server that is 1311.
1352 on the remote
Kris how do I change to 1352 on remote if I am not prompted with update...
 
NO! When you toggle between the 2, when you go back to Roon NO AUDIO DEVICE FOUND and it flashes back and forth, it find it for a split second, then it can't...
I know the reason.
you have 2 roon servers aplications running. I had the same symptoms.

solution for short time:
stop one of the roon server in the manager
 

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