Taiko Audio SGM Extreme : the Crème de la Crème

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Forget the gear, I would visit just for the sausages!:)
I’d visit for the beer!
Then the sausages…
But I’m from Wisconsin so that’s an easy sell.
 

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Goodmorning!

The top PCB is a DC input powersupply enabling the useage of an external powersupply. This utilises GaN (Gallium Nitrate) Fets, can supply up to 11.500 watts and run cool while doing it. Obviously this is overkill, but overkill is sortoff our thing I guess.

The middle PCB is a BMS (Battery Management System), this allows the usage of a battery pack to power the top DC input powersupply. Why did we go through the trouble of designing this while a BMS is widely available and/or included in virtually every battery pack? Because they sound bad and severely degrade battery supply audio performance to below an elaborate high-end AC-DC supply, that is now no longer the case.

The bottom PCB is a battery charger / controller with a remote control interface controlling the BMS.
 

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Goodmorning!

The top PCB is a DC input powersupply enabling the useage of an external powersupply. This utilises GaN (Gallium Nitrate) Fets, can supply up to 11.500 watts and run cool while doing it. Obviously this is overkill, but overkill is sortoff our thing I guess.

The middle PCB is a BMS (Battery Management System), this allows the usage of a battery pack to power the top DC input powersupply. Why did we go through the trouble of designing this while a BMS is widely available and/or included in virtually every battery pack? Because they sound bad and severely degrade battery supply audio performance to below an elaborate high-end AC-DC supply, that is now no longer the case.

The bottom PCB is a battery charger / controller with a remote control interface controlling the BMS.
Not sure how, where and to what components these beauties will be attached, but I just love the fact that it will result in even more sonic marvels for all of us!
 
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Goodmorning!

The top PCB is a DC input powersupply enabling the useage of an external powersupply. This utilises GaN (Gallium Nitrate) Fets, can supply up to 11.500 watts and run cool while doing it. Obviously this is overkill, but overkill is sortoff our thing I guess.

The middle PCB is a BMS (Battery Management System), this allows the usage of a battery pack to power the top DC input powersupply. Why did we go through the trouble of designing this while a BMS is widely available and/or included in virtually every battery pack? Because they sound bad and severely degrade battery supply audio performance to below an elaborate high-end AC-DC supply, that is now no longer the case.

The bottom PCB is a battery charger / controller with a remote control interface controlling the BMS.
Are the plans clear regarding how above Next Gen Technology maps to the Products?

That is, will the above Next Gen be applicable to our current Extremes as an upgrade/extension OR will the Next Gen only be compatible with a not yet announced Extreme v2?

Related question - is the plan to power entire Extreme via battery or selected parts/rails?
Would require a very large battery to be present in our listening rooms...

If entire Extreme is powered via battery - will you do some trade-in of current Extreme's power solution? (Seems very wasteful to have that just sitting un-used as it likely accounts for a large parts cost of Extreme and could be re-purposed in other, non battery powered Extremes).
 
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Are the plans clear regarding how above Next Gen Technology maps to the Products?

That is, will the above Next Gen be applicable to our current Extremes as an upgrade/extension OR will the Next Gen only be compatible with a not yet announced Extreme v2?

Related question - is the plan to power entire Extreme via battery or selected parts/rails?
Would require a very large battery to be present in our listening rooms...

If entire Extreme is powered via battery - will you do some trade-in of current Extreme's power solution? (Seems very wasteful to have that just sitting un-used as it likely accounts for a large parts cost of Extreme and could be re-purposed in other, non battery powered Extremes).

The top PCB fits into the Extreme after which it can be powered by either moving its existing powersupply to an external box, or by an external battery supply. Naturally our upgrade at price differential guarantee applies. We are investigating doing on site upgrades when the time comes and are talking to an interested party for the US right now.

I should add that the world supply situation and energy cost not only affects material availability and pricing but manufacturing availability and cost is changing aswell. Therefor we are working on providing alternative casework for the Extreme environment, the Extreme as it exists right now, in its current package is going to see a significant price raise, we have been postponing this for a long time now but it‘s looking increasingly unavoidable.
 
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The top PCB fits into the Extreme after which it can be powered by either moving its existing powersupply to an external box, or by an external battery supply. Naturally our upgrade at price differential guarantee applies. We are investigating doing on site upgrades when the time comes and are talking to an interested party for the US right now.

I should add that the world supply situation and energy cost not only affects material availability and pricing but manufacturing availability and cost is changing aswell. Therefor we are working on providing alternative casework for the Extreme environment, the Extreme as it exists right now, in its current package is going to see a significant price raise, we have been postponing this for a long time now but it‘s looking increasingly unavoidable.
How does this affect those of us that ordered Extreme’s under the current pricing structure but haven’t taken delivery of our Extreme? Will we be offered an upgrade path prior to completion of our order? I’m assuming that you didn’t spend all this development time and capital if this was not an improvement to your existing Extreme’s power supply?

I’m also curious to know if this new power supply’s development was concurrent to your future networking product releases, and is performance of those products related to battery supply DC isolation.
 

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Are you guys using XDMS on the Extremes in Munich?
 
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How does this affect those of us that ordered Extreme’s under the current pricing structure but haven’t taken delivery of our Extreme? Will we be offered an upgrade path prior to completion of our order? I’m assuming that you didn’t spend all this development time and capital if this was not an improvement to your existing Extreme’s power supply?

I’m also curious to know if this new power supply’s development was concurrent to your future networking product releases, and is performance of those products related to battery supply DC isolation.

This will not be a available for several months but once it is we will make sure you do not end up paying more then you would have right now.

We have been working on this for about 2 years already.
 

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Great work @Taiko Audio team! This sounds really promising!
So I guess this is indeed the "problem solving power supply", correct?
Will you be releasing some more information about the planned usage as well as sonic improvements?
And will you be releasing some more information on the network card, switch and possibly even router in the course of Munich High End as well?
Exciting times ahead!
 

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Great work @Taiko Audio team! This sounds really promising!
So I guess this is indeed the "problem solving power supply", correct?
Will you be releasing some more information about the planned usage as well as sonic improvements?
And will you be releasing some more information on the network card, switch and possibly even router in the course of Munich High End as well?
Exciting times ahead!

Yes we will release a lot more information, I‘ve started working on a roadmap as we have 17 development projects running, releasing over the next 2 years. A roadmap should make things more transparent. But after the Munich show.
 

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Wishing the Taiko Audio Team a productive and successful High End Munich 2022 Show.

Hope the start and your first full day has been stellar.
 

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Great work @Taiko Audio team! This sounds really promising!
So I guess this is indeed the "problem solving power supply", correct?
Will you be releasing some more information about the planned usage as well as sonic improvements?
And will you be releasing some more information on the network card, switch and possibly even router in the course of Munich High End as well?
Exciting times ahead!
This is new for me. What problems does the Extreme's PSU have?
 

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Incredible. They do look like pieces of art.
I can only imagine the buzz at the show.
And the number of questions that may be coming in.
Excited to hear about any more details as they become available, but enjoy the show!
And hopefully a few more rounds of hefeweizen are being pulled right now.
Für Ihre Gesundheit!
 
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Goodmorning!

The top PCB is a DC input powersupply enabling the useage of an external powersupply. This utilises GaN (Gallium Nitrate) Fets, can supply up to 11.500 watts and run cool while doing it. Obviously this is overkill, but overkill is sortoff our thing I guess.

The middle PCB is a BMS (Battery Management System), this allows the usage of a battery pack to power the top DC input powersupply. Why did we go through the trouble of designing this while a BMS is widely available and/or included in virtually every battery pack? Because they sound bad and severely degrade battery supply audio performance to below an elaborate high-end AC-DC supply, that is now no longer the case.

The bottom PCB is a battery charger / controller with a remote control interface controlling the BMS.
Battery, it sounds interesting,
What type of battery do you intend to use?
 

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