No need, everyone can simply try it for free for themselves. If they like it, use it, if not, uninstall it. Simple as that. No $100000 investment required.
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The official audio myth busting thread
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No need, everyone can simply try it for free for themselves. If they like it, use it, if not, uninstall it. Simple as that. No $100000 investment required.
I don't think so, I see him asking people for their experiences and advice, you can do a search on the Lampi thread, for example
Yeah maybe busting myths is too over the top for WBF. People love their myths so no point in raining on their parade. It's like going into a church and talking about dinosaurs.
Thank you (and Spaz) for the encouragement.
Definitely. Perhaps tonight, if I have time.
We have discussed this analog versus digital challenge for quite a few pages now. It is not clear to me that the event will actually take place or that people will show up. It seems that we are learning little new about this, so let's just wait to see if it ever happens and then we can have something more concrete to discuss.
Until then, are there any other myths that may be simpler to debunk and that people could do? I'd love to have people test a Shuman Resonator, cable elevators, isolation under digital gear, etc. However, I wonder if people are a bit hesitant because of the video record and publishing of the results? Or any other aspects of the proposal in the OP that make people hesitant to try it. Personally, I prefer to do long term testing in my own system to evaluate potential purchases, but others may feel differently. I'm sure my methods are flawed, but that is what I prefer to do and it has worked well for me.
Do members think that one of these public/video/myth buster tests will actually happen, as described in the OP? And if not, why not?
Until then, are there any other myths that may be simpler to debunk and that people could do? I'd love to have people test a Shuman Resonator, cable elevators, isolation under digital gear, etc. However, I wonder if people are a bit hesitant because of the video record and publishing of the results? Or any other aspects of the proposal in the OP that make people hesitant to try it. Personally, I prefer to do long term testing in my own system to evaluate potential purchases, but others may feel differently. I'm sure my methods are flawed, but that is what I prefer to do and it has worked well for me.
Do members think that one of these public/video/myth buster tests will actually happen, as described in the OP? And if not, why not?
It's too sensitive of an issue to discuss here. Perhaps it will just be a small gathering, and we will keep the results to ourselves. Last thing we want is anyone to think what they currently own isn't the holy grail.
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I plan to test some of the above at some point. And I am definitely getting together with Mike. Whether we just listen to music, measure his gear, or something discussed in the thread is TBD.
BTW, I am not signing up for any videotaping of me. Everyone says I am the most handsome audiophile around and I am not taking any chances of the camera catching my bad side. No sir...
I can pop by with some prototypes. I have a few different concepts that I would like feedback on. And if you want to measure them, that would be cool as well. I'm targeting about 3% THD+ noise, since I've learned you must have over 1% THD for a product to be valued at over $100k
Well I use cable lifters but would not make any bold claims about them.
You can certainly change the way your cdp sounds by using various isolation devices.. Though I have found my TAD is much better with stock feet. I have tried other things and all made it worse.
Burn in myth would be my suggestion, now I believe in it but it may well be your ears and brain getting used to the sound.
The reason I have trouble with this burn in issue is you never hear anyone saying they loved thier new cables sockets speakers etc but did not like the difference when they burned in!
Most things I believe in like cables and isolation and sockets and plugs all at some point have made my music worse rather that better as expected. It kinda proves to me when this happens that there is a effect happening.
You can certainly change the way your cdp sounds by using various isolation devices.. Though I have found my TAD is much better with stock feet. I have tried other things and all made it worse.
Burn in myth would be my suggestion, now I believe in it but it may well be your ears and brain getting used to the sound.
The reason I have trouble with this burn in issue is you never hear anyone saying they loved thier new cables sockets speakers etc but did not like the difference when they burned in!
Most things I believe in like cables and isolation and sockets and plugs all at some point have made my music worse rather that better as expected. It kinda proves to me when this happens that there is a effect happening.
Amir you should have your own you tube channel, just videos of you integrating audio and software designers in you own special way
It would not be long before it got picked up by the Comedy Central network.
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Your first sentence does not make sense, Blizzard. We have been discussing it here for the majority of these 401 posts. And I think your last sentence is an incorrect assumption. You are doing market research, so here are a few data points: I know what I own is not the holy grail. I have heard better and I am not bothered by that. Same for my buddies in our Boston Area audio group.
So does that mean you no longer want to publish video results of these tests, or that you agree that it might be difficult to actually have such a myth busting event take place? You accused Mike L. of copping out, but he publicly invited you over to his place and suggested that you bring your own digital gear. That sounds like an invitation and I have a feeling that Mike would write about the experience in a fair and specific way. He has clearly demonstrated his willingness to audition new things and to share his listening room with others.
Regardless, MadFloyd just had a small gathering of two at his place to compare his NADAC to his analog. I have spoken with them both and they seemed to have fun and learn a few things. I hope to go in the next few weeks with Al M. We will have fun because we each are approaching the comparison with an open mind and a willingness to learn about the latest digital gear. Al M. is actually in the market to upgrade his digital front end, and if this combination approaches what he and I heard at Goodwins with the Vivaldi stack in terms of musical involvement and enjoyment and resemblance to live instruments, than, we will have a great time and have learned something new about digital. The Vivaldi, though very expensive, did challenge my views about all of the previous digital that I have heard. It was excellent. And, Al and I will certainly be willing to share our observations with the forum on MadFloyd's system page.
If this myth busting event takes place in Seattle, I encourage you to share the results. Members don't have to read them, but those who are interested may learn something.
Amir, someone wrote that you can actually be kind of funny. I thought, "No Way". He was right. Who knew? That is a very funny comment. Sorry, I can't stand using emojis, so I will end with this.
We will see. We can share our findings if we do, but it will be on deaf ears without well known vinyl advocates caught on tape proving the results. They would never risk this as it would crumble their life long belief, and everything they stand for.
I didn´t know Mike was on probation nor that he had reached an agreement to avoid the death penalty...whatever the case it is obvious certain people take Blizzard´s words as an offense akin to someone verbally assaulting them, some of them seem to like it though because they can´t avoid looking for confrontation, for those constantly blaming Mike and pointing fingers: it takes two to tango lads, you ain´t without sin but you cast the first, the second and even the third stone.
I thought spanish forums were bad, we like fighting amongst ourselves but I´ve never seen a member anywhere else try to push the administration into the banning of another like I´ve seen here with Mike, or assuring the enforcing of restrictions. To all the guys that don´t like Blizzard, please stay out of it if and let the rest of us breathe some fresh air and have fun.
One last thing, many of us could benefit from being and posting like Mike...Lavigne, so hats off to him.
I thought spanish forums were bad, we like fighting amongst ourselves but I´ve never seen a member anywhere else try to push the administration into the banning of another like I´ve seen here with Mike, or assuring the enforcing of restrictions. To all the guys that don´t like Blizzard, please stay out of it if and let the rest of us breathe some fresh air and have fun.
One last thing, many of us could benefit from being and posting like Mike...Lavigne, so hats off to him.
I'll let you know, even if it's not public, I want to convince you that digital can beat analog. I'm not convinced that you have preformed the right procedures, with the right gear to have really experience an true apples to apples comparison yet.
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