The State of High End Audio

I'm confused Blizzard. I though you wrote in a post in this thread about five or so pages ago that you are banned from writing in this thread. I think this thread which has an interesting topic is going downhill very fast now just like so many others have recently.

A key indicator to what this has occurred can be found within the posts of the thread. No decryption required.

Start with the first ad hominem comment, and work your way down from there.

Sorry but when all a guy has on his side is facts, that's what he's gonna use for ammunition.

But yes I know there was a reason JFK and John Lennon were shot.
 
Oh so it's ok to slander my name with posts that are based on BS, but when I point out the obvious, I'm the bad guy? You guys are buddies. Of course you are going to stick up for him. I'm discussing disruptive technology, and ways of doing business that will threaten the well being of the established dealer network system. Do you think I'm expecting the dealers to support this?

Why don't we just adapt, instead of revolt?? The future isn't going anywhere anytime soon . Perhaps listen to the lyrics of this song very closely. Bob Dylan understood this 50 years ago, why can't we today??

[video=vimeo;93130150]https://vimeo.com/93130150[/video]

OMG!!! How dare you post this... Do you have idea of the meaning of that songs, and the other songs of that period! You are not a movement for life, progress, peace and freedom!!! You insult any decent person here with your BS. Enough already. It is time for Amir to take some action... Please...
 
OMG!!! How dare you post this... Do you have idea of the meaning of that songs, and the other songs of that period! You are not a movement for life, progress, peace and freedom!!! You insult any decent person here with your BS. Enough already. It is time for Amir to take some action... Please...

Oh, actually it seems very appropriate to me. Blizzard, if he follows through on what he has been describing, and if he doesn't others will, seems just about right for this. Maybe not cultural progress, peace and freedom. But the audio equivalent of leveling the field in terms of quality, making SOTA available to more people, at lower prices, sure seems like something of progress, something of freedom and while not peace well your accusations are really out of line on this.
 
Oh, actually it seems very appropriate to me. Blizzard, if he follows through on what he has been describing, and if he doesn't others will, seems just about right for this. Maybe not cultural progress, peace and freedom. But the audio equivalent of leveling the field in terms of quality, making SOTA available to more people, at lower prices, sure seems like something of progress, something of freedom and while not peace well your accusations are really out of line on this.

Were you alive during the 60s?
 
Bob, you seem to be highly offended by what is a great Bob Dylan's tune...I don't get it. I see nothing else than good 60's life and more advanced 2016's life. ...All good.
 
Oh, please... I can't have an opinion on a speaker with drivers I've heard many times before, even if ausify does try to discredit my experience, which was a low move imo... very insulting... I can have that opinion based on the fact the speaker can't provide high SPLs and won't reproduce the bottom two octaves +? Sorry, but in a $30k system I expect the speakers to be able to move a bit more air than small monitors. And that doesn't mean that ONLY low end response is important, as ausify implied in another insulting post, as if that criticism was suppose to imply that's what I think on the matter...ridiculous and insulting as well... that I don't value anything other than bass response. The truth is, those speakers are going to bottleneck a $30k system so there's no way it could even come close to competing with a system half it's cost. If you think, for $30k, that you can't have a full range system that will destroy those little monitors you're in fantasy-land.

And to be clear, i do think those speakers are a good value, just not for a $30k system.
 
Bob, you seem to be highly offended by what is a great Bob Dylan's tune...I don't get it. I see nothing else than good 60's life and more advanced 2016's life. ...All good.

Not by the song! It has great meaning. People were struggling to live and be free, not trying to publicize a new DAC chip...

But by it being used by an abrasive insulting individual as an attempt fool people that he is leading them to the promised land.

Next he will be telling us he has "been to the mountaintop" and he "seen the promised land." And let's not forget... And he has a dream.



 
OMG!!! How dare you post this... Do you have idea of the meaning of that songs, and the other songs of that period! You are not a movement for life, progress, peace and freedom!!! You insult any decent person here with your BS. Enough already. It is time for Amir to take some action... Please...

Massive over-reaction.
 
Not by the song! It has great meaning. People were struggling to live and be free, not trying to publicize a new DAC chip...
But by it being used by an abrasive insulting individual as an attempt to fool people that he is leading them to the promised land.
Next he will be telling us he has "been to the mountaintop" and he "seen the promised land." And let's not forget... And he has a dream.

Aren't you taking what Mike's saying too much @ cash value perhaps?

Here's what I think, but first here's what I believe: What is in red above, it would pain me personally to read...about anyone.
Now here's what I think: Mike is not trying to fool anyone by making them believe that he's leading them to the promised land as you eloquently put it in that second part.

We, as an advanced society of very intelligent and mature individuals, with high IQs, we are free. ...Free to accept and free to reject everything/anything that people have to offer by their sharing and style. We can embrace with high satisfaction, and we can refute with even higher respect.

That's what I think.
 
Oh, please... I can't have an opinion on a speaker with drivers I've heard many times before, even if ausify does try to discredit my experience, which was a low move imo... very insulting... I can have that opinion based on the fact the speaker can't provide high SPLs and won't reproduce the bottom two octaves +? Sorry, but in a $30k system I expect the speakers to be able to move a bit more air than small monitors. And that doesn't mean that ONLY low end response is important, as ausify implied in another insulting post, as if that criticism was suppose to imply that's what I think on the matter...ridiculous and insulting as well... that I don't value anything other than bass response. The truth is, those speakers are going to bottleneck a $30k system so there's no way it could even come close to competing with a system half it's cost. If you think, for $30k, that you can't have a full range system that will destroy those little monitors you're in fantasy-land.

And to be clear, i do think those speakers are a good value, just not for a $30k system.

Dave only the higher end line uses the Accutons and Raal's. These appear to be Mundorf air motion knock offs combined with likely Asian built midbasses. You won't see Accuton's and Raal's in speakers at this price point sold through a dealer network.
 
I can't figure out what speakers you guy are are yammering on about, off topic.
 
Two day old post 24pages in I figured it was not good, and I was right.
Guys pick up a phone and call each other and be done with this behavior.
 
I can't figure out what speakers you guy are are yammering on about, off topic.

The Acoustic Evolution Micro ones. Dave figured they were Accuton midwoofers and Raal tweeters. But he mistakened them for the higher end line. These ones use Asian sourced drivers. Look impressive anyways. Lots of good stuff coming out of China these days. Great value. And not just the drivers are made in China, but I hear the complete speaker. Which explains the price.

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OMG!!! How dare you post this... Do you have idea of the meaning of that songs, and the other songs of that period! You are not a movement for life, progress, peace and freedom!!! You insult any decent person here with your BS. Enough already. It is time for Amir to take some action... Please...

Come one bobbie, don't make me start counting again
 
Well done ... another thread gone down the tubes
 
To return slightly to the original post, it is amazing how for example loudspeaker pricing/marketing has changed, when I visited my first Munich Hi-End really expensive loudspeakers were few and far between, Magico had just introduced their Mini, Wilson were showing a pair of Watt/Puppies ,Euros 50k was if I remember correctly the absolute maximimum, now every loudspeaker manufacturer has a 100k loudspeaker in their range.
And it is a good job that aluminium is plentiful because the enclosures for amplifiers have also grown more massive every year
to mirror the growth in absolutely enormous loudspeakers.
Unfortunately a very high percentage of the HiEnd no longer has anything to do with sound quality and has become what, luxury items, male jewellery ?
Keith.
 

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