Tidal La Assoluta system

Hello ,

Could you explain the grounding post on your speakers more , what is it actually Connecting to internally when you ground it to your tri point ..?


Regards
 
Hello ,

Could you explain the grounding post on your speakers more , what is it actually Connecting to internally when you ground it to your tri point ..?


Regards
Here is a (link to a) picture of the back of the LA’s on which the dedicated grounding binding post can be found: 1688564736170.jpeg
 
As regards your question: Jorn never fully informed me how he exactly devised the grounding scheme inside the LA’s but he did tell me that the chambers - in the middle part of the LA’s -, in which the xovers are placed, are grounded.
 
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I have been silent the last couple of weeks. There is a specific reason for that apart from time constraints: I have disassembled the LA system. Why? At the moment I am employing 21 pure copper slabs of 2,5 cm thickness. I will not only add another 19 of these pieces - these new 19 copper platforms have been cut and are currently being sanded to a mirror finish - but also the new Tripoint Audio Emperor NG. The additional 19 copper pieces will inter alia be used as platforms under my dedicated powerstrip (as before I will stack two pieces of 2,5 cm in order to create a platform of 5 cm thickness for the powerstrip). The two Tripoint Elite NG’s I am currently using weigh a little over 160 pounds each while the Tripoint Audio Emperor NG will be (even) heavier: the latter will not only use four completely new filters but these filters will be significantly larger than the filters that are being used inside the Tripoint Elite NG’s. 40 of these pure copper platforms is a tremendous weight of course. In addition my LA’s weigh 500 kilo’s each. So my wooden floor that rests on wooden beams - my ‘art nouveau/jugendstil’ house dates from 1902 - already carries and will carry in the future an awful lot of weight on one side of the (listening) room.

In order to divide the weight somewhat I am repositioning some of my audio components: inter alia My Tripoint Audio Emperor mk ii ‘ground’ station (which is btw much bigger and significantly heavier than the Tripoint Audio Elite NG’s), the two PSU ‘s of my Wadax reference dac together with its two copper platforms as well as the PSU of my Zanden 2000p cd-transport will be moved: they are going to be placed in the conservatory, a room that is adjacent to my listening room.

While doing this I will clean and repolish all of my 19 pure copper platforms (pure copper means that the platforms are untreated and pure copper does tarnish over time of course, the only ‘disadvantage’ of using these (pure) copper slabs). A meticulous cleaning and repolishing of one copper slab takes approximately one hour so I have been quite busy lately and I am not done yet.:)
 
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However, just before I started disassembling the LA system I received from John - the Hifistay distributor located in London - a number of Hifistay’s sound wings. I briefly used four of them in order to lift my Taralabs Grand Master loudspeaker cables from the floor. My first impressions of Hifistay’s sound wings are quite positive: added transparency, ‘ flow’ and serenity. Will report on their performance in more depth later when the LA system is up and running again.
 
My final remark for today: although it will still take a while I am going to add a few new additional and important ‘hifi goodies’ to the LA system (that is apart from the new Tripoint grounding Emperor NG and the additional 19 copper slabs). But that is a ‘story’ for later.
 
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I am sure many would be interested in seeing new photos when you have completed the repositioning of >1 tonne of equipment!
 
I am sure many would be interested in seeing new photos when you have completed the repositioning of >1 tonne of equipment!
That is indeed my intention. Furthermore - after inserting the Tripoint Audio new Emperor NG ‘grounding’ box - I plan to share one or more recordings.
 
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Last weekend I completely rearranged my La Assoluta set up. First of all I cleaned all my (19) full copper platforms (which btw takes a lot of time; only the smallest platform took me already one hour in order to realize a ‘mirror finish’ on all sides). Furthermore I cleaned all connection points in order to maximize conductivity and signal transfer.

The idea behind all this is to maximize the grounding scheme of the LA system. First of all I upgraded both my two Tripoint Audio Troy Elite NG ‘grounding’ stations to the new Mk ii status. This upgrade includes improved technology in the four filtering modules per unit as well as new cable technology.

The emperor mk ii ‘grounding’ station (with in total 8 binding posts) will be used only for grounding all the full copper platforms. Currently I am grounding three platforms, that is those on which on which the Wadax reference dac, Wadax reference server and the two PSU’s of the Wadax reference dac are standing (Btw, for all Wadax reference components Revopods are being used as footers).

The AC power strip was placed on one full copper platform with a thickness of 2,5 cm as well. I will add a second copper platform in the near future; so the AC power strip is going to benefit - like all other audio components - from a copper platform of 5 cm thickness In total.

All these steps mark the end of phase 1 of the rearrangement.
 
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Phase 2 of the rearrangement of the LA system is still to come. Phase 2 will include inter alia:
- Adding the new Tripoint Audio Emperor NG ‘grounding’ station. This module uses 25% larger filtering modules in silver. It will also employ the new signature silver NG mk ii ground cable technology for the first time.
- Adding one special Tripoint Audio Emperor Statement ground cable. This is a one of a kind ground cable that Miguel will make for me. Only two of these ground cables will exist, the other one is for Miguel himself. This very, very special ground cable (Miguel is already using one in his own audio system) will be connected to the Wadax reference server.
- Adding another Tripoint Audio Emperor special edition ground cable to be hooked up to the Wadax reference dac. This is a cable that Miguel will built for me on my special request and will be a level up from the Tripoint Audio NG level.
- Mass loading of the two Tripoint Audio Elite NG’s, Emperor NG, Wadax Reference server, the two PSU’s of the Wadax Reference dac and both my Kondo Gakuoh 300b poweramps.
 
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That's commitment! Look forward to reading more, and great to see you back sharing your remarkable pursuit.

BTW, I genuinely enjoy seeing that you still have the Zanden 4-box digital in such an august system! Some day when you have cleared the next major stage of all the work you are doing...would be genuinely intrigued to hear (someday if you get the time and opportunity) what you think of the Waversa EXT Ref Plus and the Z:Axis umbilicals and i2s cable which we have been genuinely enjoying with the Zanden 4-box digital.
 
That's commitment! Look forward to reading more, and great to see you back sharing your remarkable pursuit.

BTW, I genuinely enjoy seeing that you still have the Zanden 4-box digital in such an august system! Some day when you have cleared the next major stage of all the work you are doing...would be genuinely intrigued to hear (someday if you get the time and opportunity) what you think of the Waversa EXT Ref Plus and the Z:Axis umbilicals and i2s cable which we have been genuinely enjoying with the Zanden 4-box digital.
Thanks Lloyd. Just to be sure: the Zanden 2000p cd-transport is connected through a Tidal (and silver) AES/EBU cable to the Wadax reference dac. So - for obvious reasons - I am not playing with the Zanden dac anymore. In my current set up I (regretfully) cannot use an I2s cable (I know I2s is the best connection for the Zanden cd-transport) because the Wadax Reference dac misses such an input. Although to my ears the Wadax Reference dac and Wadax Reference server in combination with the (very special) Akasa interlink seem to have less artifacts casu quo less distorsion than the Zanden 2000p/Wadax Reference dac combo, the Zanden cd-transport is imho still a mighty fine piece of equipment.

Could you please provide me a link or some additional info as regards the umbilicals you mentioned? At the moment I am still using the Zanden umbilicals but I understand that you clearly prefer the other umbilicals.

And yes, it is quite a commitment. I am very glad that phase one of my rearrangement scheme is behind me: not only took the polishing of all 19 full copper platforms a lot of time and effort but transporting the Tripoint Audio Troy Elite boxes - each piece weighs a little over 72 Kg! - is no pleasure at all. In all honesty I am still feeling my back.That said, the mark two version of these - already before this update wonderful sounding - ‘grounding’ devices is stunning and completely worth all the efforts. Imho Miguel or Tripoint Audio does not get the full credits he or his brand deserves for their groundbreaking ‘grounding’ efforts. The mk two version of the Troy Elite is so much - and I really mean: much!! - better sounding than its mk one version. Since the two Troy Elite mk 2 units are back in the La Assoluta system I am ‘glued’ to my listening chair. In audiophile terms: out of this world dynamics, added transparency, more command and density, wider and deeper soundstage, etc. But by far the most striking features are the added purity, serinity / calmness, beautiful tonality and continuity: the mk two version of the Troy Elite NG sounds so much more like unamplified live music. Apparently it removes (clearly) more distorsion than the mk one version and as a consequence the music presentation becomes so more real or less mechanical. In all honesty I am still amazed about the magnitude of the progress that Miguel has been able to achieve with this mk two version.

However, the ’scary’ part is that according to Miguel the new Tripoint Audio Emperor NG unit will be in a class of its own: inter alia due to the use of more copper and 25% larger - silver - filter modules this piece is going to weigh around 100 KG. In combination with Tripoint Audio ‘s new cable technology the Emperor NG will (according to Miguel) bring the following to the table: less distortion, more power casu quo better dynamics, more command, more beautiful tonality, more purity, more scale, more transparency, better fluidity as well as better image density. For me it is hard to imagine that this new grounding device is going to be that much better than the Troy Elite mk two because the latter is already so incredible good! But I am going to find out in two months or so.

The inclusion of the two Troy Elite mk two units in the LA system confirmed (again) the following to me: the Tidal La Assoluta loudspeakers are magnificent transducers. Their (real) diamond tweeter in combination with their two (real) diamond midrange units per loudspeaker are
unique in creating a wonderful refined and pure music presentation. Although Tidal Audio as a brand has in the meantime ‘moved on‘ by introducing the Tidal for Bugatti loudspeakers and equipment line the La Assoluta loudspeaker is imho a masterpiece.
 
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And just to be clear about this: people who have only heard the LA’s under show conditions, in particular the Munich high end show with its notorious bad sounding rooms, have no clue what these loudspeakers are really capable of under ‘controlled’ circumstances and with top notch grounding. I will upgrade the grounding of my LA’s in the near future: each LA will be separately connected to the new Tripoint Audio Emperor NG silver filter. I expect that as a consequence the qualities of the LA’s in general and the three diamond units per loudspeaker in particular are going to shine as never before.
 
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Thanks Lloyd. Just to be sure: the Zanden 2000p cd-transport is connected through a Tidal (and silver) AES/EBU cable to the Wadax reference dac. So - for obvious reasons - I am not playing with the Zanden dac anymore. In my current set up I (regretfully) cannot use an I2s cable (I know I2s is the best connection for the Zanden cd-transport) because the Wadax Reference dac misses such an input. Although to my ears the Wadax Reference dac and Wadax Reference server in combination with the (very special) Akasa interlink seem to have less artifacts casu quo less distorsion than the Zanden 2000p/Wadax Reference dac combo, the Zanden cd-transport is imho still a mighty fine piece of equipment.

Could you please provide me a link or some additional info as regards the umbilicals you mentioned? At the moment I am still using the Zanden umbilicals but I understand that you clearly prefer the other umbilicals.

And yes, it is quite a commitment. I am very glad that phase one of my rearrangement scheme is behind me: not only took the polishing of all 19 full copper platforms a lot of time and effort but transporting the Tripoint Audio Troy Elite boxes - each piece weighs a little over 72 Kg! - is no pleasure at all. In all honesty I am still feeling my back.That said, the mark two version of these - already before this update wonderful sounding - ‘grounding’ devices is stunning and completely worth all the efforts. Imho Miguel or Tripoint Audio does not get the full credits he or his brand deserves for their groundbreaking ‘grounding’ efforts. The mk two version of the Troy Elite is so much - and I really mean: much!! - better sounding than its mk one version. Since the two Troy Elite mk 2 units are back in the La Assoluta system I am ‘glued’ to my listening chair. In audiophile terms: out of this world dynamics, added transparency, more command and density, wider and deeper soundstage, etc. But by far the most striking features are the added purity, serinity / calmness, beautiful tonality and continuity: the mk two version of the Troy Elite NG sounds so much more like unamplified live music. Apparently it removes (clearly) more distorsion than the mk one version and as a consequence the music presentation becomes so more real or less mechanical. In all honesty I am still amazed about the magnitude of the progress that Miguel has been able to achieve with this mk two version.

However, the ’scary’ part is that according to Miguel the new Tripoint Audio Emperor NG unit will be in a class of its own: inter alia due to the use of more copper and 25% larger - silver - filter modules this piece is going to weigh around 100 KG. In combination with Tripoint Audio ‘s new cable technology the Emperor NG will (according to Miguel) bring the following to the table: less distortion, more power casu quo better dynamics, more command, more beautiful tonality, more purity, more scale, more transparency, better fluidity as well as better image density. For me it is hard to imagine that this new grounding device is going to be that much better than the Troy Elite mk two because the latter is already so incredible good! But I am going to find out in two months or so.

The inclusion of the two Troy Elite mk two units in the LA system confirmed (again) the following to me: the Tidal La Assoluta loudspeakers are magnificent transducers. Their (real) diamond tweeter in combination with their two (real) diamond midrange units per loudspeaker are
unique in creating a wonderful refined and pure music presentation. Although Tidal Audio as a brand has in the meantime ‘moved on‘ by introducing the Tidal for Bugatti loudspeakers and equipment line the La Assoluta loudspeaker is imho a masterpiece.
Hi Audiocrack,

Thanks for the detailed update! Wow...pretty incredible and will go back later and read further. Quickly - Z:Axis Audio (Paul Stratton) has done remarkable work using his own manner of working (I think? with pure silver) to create an i2s cable...and also has his own cords, so he created using that design custom power umbilicals for the Zanden.

Resolution, refinement...particularly resolution. It was quite a surprise to me how much more there was that the basic underlying Zanden was producing that was just being held back by the umbilicals and i2s cable.

I have spoken with Wadax about the connection and of course, they said the same about the Zanden and Wadax. For me, it was actually to use the Zanden DAC (including Waversa in my case), but the clock of the Transport would not be replaced by anything in their server, so that is far from ideal. So for now have left the whole thing. The main alternative is Innuos Statement server which does do re-clocking. But for now, leaving all on hold.
 
Hi Audiocrack,

Thanks for the detailed update! Wow...pretty incredible and will go back later and read further. Quickly - Z:Axis Audio (Paul Stratton) has done remarkable work using his own manner of working (I think? with pure silver) to create an i2s cable...and also has his own cords, so he created using that design custom power umbilicals for the Zanden.

Resolution, refinement...particularly resolution. It was quite a surprise to me how much more there was that the basic underlying Zanden was producing that was just being held back by the umbilicals and i2s cable.

I have spoken with Wadax about the connection and of course, they said the same about the Zanden and Wadax. For me, it was actually to use the Zanden DAC (including Waversa in my case), but the clock of the Transport would not be replaced by anything in their server, so that is far from ideal. So for now have left the whole thing. The main alternative is Innuos Statement server which does do re-clocking. But for now, leaving all on hold.
Thanks Lloyd for this info.
 

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