Tobian Soundsystems - Switzerland

[Zappadaddy]

Yeah. For sure. I think the 12FH is the real sweet-spot product in their line up.

I LOVE the 12FH's.

If it were my money I'd buy the 12FH's and spend the difference on buying a pair of Clarisys speakers (instead of the Tobian SE's) as well and having the best of both worlds in speaker designs.

and that is what Lampizator did, bought Minuet which I heard overthere when visiting and I felt in love woith those rightaway, and now they also aquired Auditorium as well, there must be something good about this brand, on this other hand I visit friend of mine and he bought Tobian SF12, also decent but in my opiunion Clarisis is simply something else, I agree

 

[Golum]

I respectfully disagree with your “decent” statment about Tobian speakers. I have them, heard them all as well as I heard majority of Clarysis portfolio and one can lean towards panels and one towards horns but both deliver goodies amazingly good. My space does not fit panels and if it did i would have both at home for granted as in my book they are just above any dynamic speaker i ever heard (and i heard them quite a few).

 

[gionaz]

bought Minuet

well it's difficult to compare or choose a Clarisys Audio MINUET that has 88 db (with the neodymium option) vs a Tobian 12FH full range horn speakers of 98 db... honestly I struggle to understand...
They are totally different settings and ways of approaching this passion, you need welders there...

different speech for the Clarisys Audio AUDITORIUM + with a more honorable impedance and a low but not very low efficiency!
they still remain listening with incomparable philosophies!
what price for a pair of Clarisys Audio AUDITORIUM +?

 

[Golum]

We've got the Tobian 12 FH incoming as well as the 12 Signature later on in fall/winter where I'm looking forward to share thoughts and experiences with you all along the way.

/ Marcus, www.perfect-sense.se

I've seen You've received the speakers.
Any initial impressions and if so with what electronics?

 

[Zappadaddy]

I respectfully disagree with your “decent” statment about Tobian speakers. I have them, heard them all as well as I heard majority of Clarysis portfolio and one can lean towards panels and one towards horns but both deliver goodies amazingly good. My space does not fit panels and if it did i would have both at home for granted as in my book they are just above any dynamic speaker i ever heard (and i heard them quite a few).

Well now I agree with your statement, he received Aries Protos and Helene and now Tobian system sings in great manner ,each technology sounds different but both are incredible sounding, you just have to give them what they need, yes

 

[Hyperion]

I've seen You've received the speakers.
Any initial impressions and if so with what electronics?

The Tobian 12Sig is a phenomenal speaker. It's even more complete, full range and effortless compared to the 12FH.

These speakers do deserve the very best in terms of electronics. We've had wonderful results with the Phasemation SA-1500 (300B) as well as the Aries Cerat Protos integrated amplifer so far. We've also got access to Allnic and Viva SET.

/ Marcus, www.perfect-sense.se

 

[morricab]

Well now I agree with your statement, he received Aries Protos and Helene and now Tobian system sings in great manner ,each technology sounds different but both are incredible sounding, you just have to give them what they need, yes

Protos with my Eufrodite Ellipse sounds pretty awesome as well.

 

[Hyperion]

Protos with my Eufrodite Ellipse sounds pretty awesome as well.

I bet

/ Marcus, www.perfect-sense.se

 

[jep123]

The Tobian 12Sig is a phenomenal speaker. It's even more complete, full range and effortless compared to the 12FH.

These speakers do deserve the very best in terms of electronics. We've had wonderful results with the Phasemation SA-1500 (300B) as well as the Aries Cerat Protos integrated amplifer so far. We've also got access to Allnic and Viva SET.

/ Marcus, www.perfect-sense.se

The Tobian 12FH with the Viva 300B integrated is probably the best system I have owned. And I have owned quite a few high end systems over the past 35 years.

JP
Semi retired audiophile

 

[Synaxis]

The Tobian 12FH with the Viva 300B integrated is probably the best system I have owned. And I have owned quite a few high end systems over the past 35 years.

JP
Semi retired audiophile

I have not tried my 12FH's with the Viva 300B but I did with the Viva 845.

I've also tried them with tube amps from:

Manley
Brunoco
Triode Labs
Cayin
Qualiton
Allnic
BAT
Rodgers
Galion
Tektron
Accuphase
Luxman
And more.

To me some were good, some were truly great sounding. But the Aries Cerat 845's with the 12FH's has the special place in my heart.

 

[Zappadaddy]

I have not tried my 12FH's with the Viva 300B but I did with the Viva 845.

I've also tried them with tube amps from:

Manley
Brunoco
Triode Labs
Cayin
Qualiton
Allnic
BAT
Rodgers
Galion
Tektron
Accuphase
Luxman
And more.

To me some were good, some were truly great sounding. But the Aries Cerat 845's with the 12FH's has the special place in my heart.

have you tried Protos as well?

 

[Synaxis]

have you tried Protos as well?

I heard it at Believe High Fidelity but not on my system here.

 

[dart6]

I have not tried my 12FH's with the Viva 300B but I did with the Viva 845.

I've also tried them with tube amps from:

Manley
Brunoco
Triode Labs
Cayin
Qualiton
Allnic
BAT
Rodgers
Galion
Tektron
Accuphase
Luxman
And more.

To me some were good, some were truly great sounding. But the Aries Cerat 845's with the 12FH's has the special place in my heart.

Hi which Tektron did you use and what was your impression?

 

[Synaxis]

Hi which Tektron did you use and was your impression?

I have the 2A3/45i here for me to make some content on.

I'll know more this weekend as it is almost done burning in.

 

[dart6]

I have the 2A3/45i here for me to make some content on.

I'll know more this weekend as it is almost done burning in.

Sounds good

 

[Aries Cerat]

I heard it at Believe High Fidelity but not on my system here.

Believe does not have Protos

Cheers
S

 

[Golum]

Well well well....something nice coming soon in order to reunite the family...and to walk the SET talk...

 

[morricab]

Well well well....something nice coming soon in order to reunite the family...and to walk the SET talk...

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A Tobian SET?

 

[Golum]

A Tobian SET?

Yeah MA50

 

[Synaxis]

Believe does not have Protos

Cheers
S

My mistake. I thought that was one of the ones I heard there.