Dear Phelonious PonK: Which/what of what I posted you don't understand:
++++"""""" I have to say that I agree with some of your " general " concepts and opinion about active speakers or tube electronics and that I totally accept the digital alternative but for different reasons that yours.
Hearing music through active speakers could makes a difference but this sole subject IMHO can't makes that one person prefer digital over analog or analog over digital, at least not in so radical way like you states.
I'm worried more on other aspects of your daily system playback:
- you hear a system that's is " severe " limited on the music foundation: bass range. Even that you support digital that suppose goes way down there.
- you heard music mainly by headphones when people like me and like the majority in this forum hear/heard and enjoy music through speakers that permit " live " the music through all our senses/body: just like in a live event.
- for many years you did not hear/heard the analog alternative in your own system in daily or weekly time way.
there are others but these three " subjects " makes and preclude that PP can argue in a non-biased way on the analog/LP whole alternative, don't you think? or at least you can't go on on the subject if you don't go out/emerge of your very especial and specific " island " where only you live and where you have no today analog/LP reference in your " especial " system.
PP IMHO there is almost no possibility that you can understand the analog/LP alternative advantages and with no " understanding " is almost useless any " debate " that has no equilibrum because I understand both alternatives and you understand one of them and " think " ( only think ) that you understand or know analog/LP alternative but this is your mistake: you did not.
Anyway, this comes from other thread and I think is interesting to read it:
http://www.audioholics.com/education...-part-4-page-2 """"+++++++++++++++
you still continue in a " circle navegation " with no real substance or something that really switch a light on the LP/CD subject.
Even you post and agree with your own answer answer to your own arguments in the " debate ":
+++++ " Measurements don't tell the whole story,... " +++++ !!!!!!!!!!!! you say it not me but agree with.
I already give you my time looking to find arguments that can/could help to understand what IMHO is non-sense attitude but the next sentences tell me that is futile to go on " talking with you " on the LP/CD whole subject:
++++++ " and conclude, again, that I don't personally like the sound of a high-end vinyl system as much as I like lossless files into my active system. I could go out and buy a SOTA vinyl rig, listen to it for the next six months, come back here and express the same conclusions.... " +++++
Finally I don't want to leave pass two thoughts where I wonder " many things " ??????.....:::::
first, all that time that like a player you was " receiving/hearing " the straight sound of cymbals very near from you ( you stated this fact. ), SPLs that one way or the other affect the " human ears ".
second, that hearing headphones ( as your main " speaker ". ) and that hearing through headphones at high volume level ( you stated this fact too. ) always goes in severe and non-reversible degradation of what the ears can hear ( frequency response between other things. ).
I don't need and please don't take your time to answer this post: I'm finish/done.
Regards and enjoy the music,
Raul.