Tripoint troy signature grounding device

[Tango]

Yes, this is the kind of information I will need if I decide to evaluate the Tripoint Troy for my system!

Dear Sirs,

These Tripoints are expensive. Do keep in mind that 1) secondary market for this could be a free fall 2) nobody really knows or guarantees how long the effectiveness will last.

I recommend using just one Troy. One post for pre. One for analog ie. phono + tt. One for ditigal source ie. dac + transport. This config will get you a very good taste of Troy already. It will make you want more and your mind will start to wonder what if I put another one on this .. or seperate this and that..the sound would get even better. But Remember the first bite always give you the best taste. Be self concious at all time...Dont get so carry away.

Be like LL21 who has 14 on one. Dont be like Mike who is probably from Mars .

Kind regards,
Tang

 

[Tango]

These things do make wonder. But I always think if I am smart and knowlegable like RogerD, I would follow his path. If a guy who is a veteran in tape but listen to digital with extensive grounding amazes at what he is hearing, you have got to believe he is really on to something.

Kind regards,
Tang

 

[Marcus]

I have 14 connections to 3 posts...last time i spoke with Miguel he said that was a record!

Wow Lloyd! I have "only" 8 but can easily put on 3 more. Don't forget guys that Troy Signature (and Elite) has Cardas speaker posts with bannana plugs option that alow for 3 extra connections. So you can put 3 (or more as Lloyd did) grounding cables with spades and one with banana plug on one Troy connector.

Also, it's good to clean these connectors from time to time (I do it every six months). Miguel also recommends Zerostating Troy regulary.

There is one "problem" with grounding connections though. There are very few audio components with dedicated groundig posts (Tidal and Zanden for instance are exceptions and I'm sure there are a few more), so you are forced to connect grounding cables with large speaker spades to tiny chassis screws and on those places connection is not firm. I can show how I solved that problem latter...

 

[Mike Lavigne]

Wow Lloyd! I have "only" 8 but can easily put on 3 more. Don't forget guys that Troy Signature (and Elite) has Cardas speaker connectors with bannana plugs option that alow for 3 extra connections. So you can put 3 (or more as Lloyd did) grounding cables with spades and one with banana plug on one Troy connector.

Also, it's good to clean these connectors from time to time (I do it every six months). Miguel also recommends Zerostating Troy regulary.

There is one "problem" with grounding connections though. There are very few audio components with dedicated groundig posts (Tidal and Zanden for instance are exceptions and I'm sure there are a few more), so you are forced to connect grounding cables with large speaker spades to tiny chassis screws and on those places connection is not firm. I can show how I solved that problem latter...

how i'm doing it on my dart 458 monos.....

the inner nut will tighten against small washer against the anodized surface, then the spade will snug between the large and medium size washer. pictured is all stainless, but I may end up using brass instead as Miguel prefers it as a conductor.

 

[Hieukm]

The Troy party really get going.

To Mike: did you ask Miguel about daisy chain your Troy Sig with the Troy Elite?

 

[LL21]

If it's just grounding you need, I am puzzled as to why there should be any limit to the number of components attached to one post.

Is there a manual of do's and don't available online? That would at least give some idea as to the manufacturer's preferences.

First, I cannot find any more spades on the lugs! As for different lugs for different cables, I do not know...i just know that combining the thicker, differently designed cable with the thinner ones took a step backward from separating those onto separate lugs. Not sure why. Additionally, i keep the signal (ie, RCA) ground separate from chassis ground on advice of manufacturer.

 

[LL21]

Wow Lloyd! I have "only" 8 but can easily put on 3 more. Don't forget guys that Troy Signature (and Elite) has Cardas speaker posts with bannana plugs option that alow for 3 extra connections. So you can put 3 (or more as Lloyd did) grounding cables with spades and one with banana plug on one Troy connector.

Also, it's good to clean these connectors from time to time (I do it every six months). Miguel also recommends Zerostating Troy regulary.

There is one "problem" with grounding connections though. There are very few audio components with dedicated groundig posts (Tidal and Zanden for instance are exceptions and I'm sure there are a few more), so you are forced to connect grounding cables with large speaker spades to tiny chassis screws and on those places connection is not firm. I can show how I solved that problem latter...

interesting on that latter one...do snap a picture if you can!

 

[Mike Lavigne]

The Troy party really get going.

To Mike: did you ask Miguel about daisy chain your Troy Sig with the Troy Elite?

daisy chaining the 2 Troy units did not come up in my conversations with Miguel; but the Signature and Elite will be 15 feet apart in my system since my sources (where the Elite will be) are along the side of my room (across from my listening position) and my mono block darts are between my speakers, and the Sig will sit between and behind them.

 

[Mike Lavigne]

Dear Sirs,

............Be self concious at all time...Dont get so carry away.

Be like LL21 who has 14 on one. Dont be like Mike who is probably from Mars .

Kind regards,
Tang

thank you Tang.

I will remind you of this when you post pictures of your 'wonderous' EMT 927.

best regards,

Mike

 

[Marcus]

interesting on that latter one...do snap a picture if you can!

See post #13.

https://www.audionirvana.org/forum/...rators/10358-tripoint-audio-grounding-devices

 

[spiritofmusic]

Mike, any reason why you're not grounding the EA sub towers to yr Troy SE box that you're utilising to grnd the Dart monos?
Seems like a missed opportunity w them in the vicinity.

 

[Mike Lavigne]

Mike, any reason why you're not grounding the EA sub towers to yr Troy SE box that you're utilising to grnd the Dart monos?
Seems like a missed opportunity w them in the vicinity.

not gone there yet (the Troy Sig is still on my sources waiting for the Elite to arrive in a week or so) ; but I have thought about it. right now I have all 4 (2 per tower) those EA bass amps grounded to the middle box on the Entreq Poseidon (which is boosted by the Atlantic Minimus) to exceptionally good effect as I've written about previously. so I'm not feeling any significant need to change that.

yet.......at some point once the Troy Sig is actually sitting there behind the amps and connected to the dart monos, I may experiment to see whether using the Troy Sig on those bass amps might be 'net' better. due to the length, that would require using the existing Entreq cables, or acquiring new longer Tripoint cables. and that length would mean it would be seriously prohibitive to buy Thor SE Master ref for that use.

at some point when I do get that far I will give some feedback about it.

 

[howiebrou]

I have an opportunity to try a Tripoint at home for a few days. Can anyone tell me should I attach it to my preamp or sources first or my power amps. Since they are about 15 feet apart, it's really one all the other.

Thanks

Howie

 

[Jazzhead]

I have an opportunity to try a Tripoint at home for a few days. Can anyone tell me should I attach it to my preamp or sources first or my power amps. Since they are about 15 feet apart, it's really one all the other.

Thanks

Howie

Pre amp , sources , power amp ... In that order .

 

[Mike Lavigne]

I have an opportunity to try a Tripoint at home for a few days. Can anyone tell me should I attach it to my preamp or sources first or my power amps. Since they are about 15 feet apart, it's really one all the other.

Thanks

Howie

hi Howie,

assuming you have enough grounding cables for all the front end gear, do them all. plug the Troy power cable into the same duplex outlet of the grounded gear (or preamp if they are all grounded) for optimal effect.

but if you only have one cable, then i'd first try it on the preamp, and then with your source. then the amps.

 

[Tango]

Just for reminder. The Tripoint ground wire is directional.

kind regards,
Tang

 

[Jazzhead]

Just for reminder. The Tripoint ground wire is directional.

kind regards,
Tang

Hi Tang ,

Not the standard wires , may be the Master Ref ?

 

[Tango]

Hi Tang ,

Not the standard wires , may be the Master Ref ?

I meant standard wire. I use a few of those. I dont have the Thor wire.

Kind regards,
Tang

 

[Mike Lavigne]

Hi Tang ,

Not the standard wires , may be the Master Ref ?

for sure, with the Thor SE Master Ref you keep the gold fitting near the Troy end, according to Miguel. and that is where it is it in all the pictures I see. have not paid attention to directionality with the other cables. i'll have to see if there are markings to use. thanks Tang, for the heads up on this.

 

[Tango]

for sure, with the Thor SE Master Ref you keep the gold fitting near the Troy end, according to Miguel. and that is where it is it in all the pictures I see. have not paid attention to directionality with the other cables. i'll have to see if there are markings to use. thanks Tang, for the heads up on this.

There is blue marking on one end of regular wire and it is supposed to be near the equipment.

Tang