Whither Audio Research
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From the consumer's point of view, at least, there is no devil. One of the main high-power tube amp companies gets to stay in business and continue to produce great sounding products. Existing owners can continue to get their components serviced without interruption. It is all good.
Less disappointed more surprised that this would be resolved so quickly. The matter at hand remains a tall order. Acquiring the company and assuming its debt is one thing, turning things around is another. For the consumer this is good news inasmuch there is an entity taking responsibility for the company’s products and its customer service.
What this all means operationally for the company, how it is affected organisationally, what form it takes, and who oversees the vision is all to be seen and learned.
The situation has gotten to this point for several reasons and those reasons needs to be addressed.
Republicoftexas69
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I think this is wonderful. Not an ARC fan had a couple of their integrated amps and they were short lived in my system. However a great many people enjoy their products and I am happy for them and the folks that work at ARC. Not understanding the cynicism and vitriol towards this company.
I truly hope this is a new chapter in the book of ARC and great things come of it.
I truly hope this is a new chapter in the book of ARC and great things come of it.
Cheers to that! Finally sorted out... and now business as usual.
Let's all get back to enjoying our fine tunes. The speculation wagon has rolled to an end.
All the best to ARC, and most of all, keep those tubes glowing. Now that deserves a mighty WOOF!
RJ
Let's all get back to enjoying our fine tunes. The speculation wagon has rolled to an end.
All the best to ARC, and most of all, keep those tubes glowing. Now that deserves a mighty WOOF!
RJ
I own and love my ARC Ref 6SE and 160S. I had been planning to add the 3SE Phono to my setup shortly before the news that ARC had gone into administration . Like most of the good people here on this forum, I was deeply sadden to learn that ARC was suffering difficulties. I had no idea. And it did give me pause for thought - how unsettling and uncertain it must be for the talented people who work for ARC and how it must be affecting them and their families; the sadness felt by those who are proud owners of ARC equipment (like me) and those who care about the highend audio industry; and what it says about the fragility of those companies in this industry.
So, tonight I am going to raise a glass (and turn the amp up loud) to ARC and to all its employees. Sometimes good comes from a bad situation, and with a fresh start, I wish you all the success.
For my part, what better way to show my support than put that order in for the 3SE...
So, tonight I am going to raise a glass (and turn the amp up loud) to ARC and to all its employees. Sometimes good comes from a bad situation, and with a fresh start, I wish you all the success.
For my part, what better way to show my support than put that order in for the 3SE...
Even though I'm not a current ARC owner, I'm glad to hear this. I have fond memories of my early ARC gear and hope the company finds a good path forward. Be curious to know who bought it. I could speculate but that would lead to unnecessary contentiousness. (I do have someone in mind though- we'll see if my predictive abilities come true).
Congratulations ARC , to the new owners / staff
I wish them succes , i m sure i ll hear them next week in Munich.
I owned a LS 27 back in the day
I wish them succes , i m sure i ll hear them next week in Munich.
I owned a LS 27 back in the day
I also have the same Ref gear including the phono stage. They are all excellent but the Ref Phono 3SE may the best of all. It is superb!
You should try the Ref 10 and Ref Phono 10.
. Today I would still choose those first.
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Agreed...I searched long and hard for a preamp determined to find the best available, either tube or SS. Many folks had been ditching their preamps to go direct from DAC to amp. I happened to be in the right place at the right time and found my ARC Ref10 SE. To date, it has proven to be bullet proof and of course the sound is sublime.You should try the Ref 10 and Ref Phono 10.
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Tima, great photo of a great rig.
It’s a bit above my budget but I would love to have those in the system!You should try the Ref 10 and Ref Phono 10.
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You should try the Ref 10 and Ref Phono 10.
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OH MY
Thank you for introducing me to a genuinely Novel Physiological Corporeal experience. A post from yourself that I might remotely concur with … My last full ARC system comprising Ref 10 Phono , Ref 10 Pre and Ref 250SE mono ‘s … For my part a most excellent system .Emotions and nostalgia aside, one has to soberly look at the future of tube gear in context of this event. Over the last 10-15 years, the tastes of the audiophile have shifted toward hard-to-drive speakers like wilson, magico, and others. there has been a bunch of new SS amplification companies like ch precision, soulution, constellation, etc., pop up that have tickled the passions of audiophiles and the interests of "audio journalists"...
at the same time, the tube companies have receded. there are much less dealers for cj, cat, vac, etc. and it seems these tube companies have gotten smaller, smaller, and smaller , selling extremely expensive models to survive....
Personal taste wise, whereas audio research , especially the ref 75, sounds sublime driving scaena and nola, it really can't drive a wilson , a magico, focal, sinus fiber, etc., unless someone likes a soft, tubey, non-dynamic sound.... but my personal tastes aside, the overall tastes in the hobby have shifted toward the more dynamic and highly detailed solid state.
The market has spoken... so the question is who will be buying tube gear, and audio research, in the future once they get a new owner?
at the same time, the tube companies have receded. there are much less dealers for cj, cat, vac, etc. and it seems these tube companies have gotten smaller, smaller, and smaller , selling extremely expensive models to survive....
Personal taste wise, whereas audio research , especially the ref 75, sounds sublime driving scaena and nola, it really can't drive a wilson , a magico, focal, sinus fiber, etc., unless someone likes a soft, tubey, non-dynamic sound.... but my personal tastes aside, the overall tastes in the hobby have shifted toward the more dynamic and highly detailed solid state.
The market has spoken... so the question is who will be buying tube gear, and audio research, in the future once they get a new owner?
with very high efficiency speakers, I would agree. But with hard to drive box speakers like wilson and magico and sinus finer, I respectfully disagree.. walked into axpona room with a newish speaker brand driven by arc and it sounded anemic ..
regardless of personal tastes, audio research is an established brand. it's frequently sold by wilson dealers, many of whom have an emotional connection to arc over decades. so the is no shortage of passion or hype on their part
yet the market has spoken