Whither Audio Research

Looking at the big size of the factory with do many divisions and departments, I can't picture how only 23 employees work there. And ARC has many models of amps and preamps it should take a lot more people to produce those units, day in and day out. Plus the logistics of moving parts and units around from one room to another for assembly and quality control. It is supposed to be a 'big' operation.
I know that almost 20 years ago ARC was subcontracting printed circuit board stuffing, and were then assembling the finals in MN. They were using the same outstanding subcontractor used by a department of defense customer of my firm's. I spotted the work in progress at the facility during an audit for our business, and of course had to ask! That makes for a considerable "force multiplier", and is likely still a practice today.
 
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I think all the debts around be discharged in. Bankruptcy. They will start a new ,ostensibly under a new name with the assets they purchase. Any obligations under the lease will be discharged.
As I stated earlier that is strategy for letting it go to bankruptcy versus a buyout. The risk was always that you could could be outbid at the b a nkruptcy auction
 
I think all the debts around be discharged in. Bankruptcy. They will start a new ,ostensibly under a new name with the assets they purchase. Any obligations under the lease will be discharged.
As I stated earlier that is strategy for letting it go to bankruptcy versus a buyout. The risk was always that you could could be outbid at the b a nkruptcy auction
So are you saying that the extra unused space will be free going forward?
 
So are you saying that the extra unused space will be free going forward?
I could be wrong.bi am suggesting that all obligations under the old lease will be void.i new lease will have to be negotiayed.
 
I could be wrong.bi am suggesting that all obligations under the old lease will be void.i new lease will have to be negotiayed.
Yes, they won’t have back rent obligations. But if expenses aren’t cut, or revenues significantly increased, they’ll be right back in trouble.
The video did not give me a warm fuzzy feeling about the general layout … but that’s a good thing. I see many things in that video where expenses might be reduced without compromising quality.
Exciting times for Mr. Cora and his team.
 
Yes, they won’t have back rent obligations. But if expenses aren’t cut, or revenues significantly increased, they’ll be right back in trouble.
The video did not give me a warm fuzzy feeling about the general layout … but that’s a good thing. I see many things in that video where expenses might be reduced without compromising quality.
Exciting times for Mr. Cora and his team.

This is a bit silly AJ. They just got the new space. Give them time to shuffle stuff around and set up the new facility. I am sure Val and Dave and others will figure that out.
 
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This is a bit silly AJ. They just got the new space. Give them time to shuffle stuff around and set up the new facility. I am sure Val and Dave and others will figure that out.
It’s not silly. Dave did not figure it out before it was too late to avoid the receivership.
They need to figure out how to get back to positive cash flow. The alternative is failure. The overhead looks like a good place to start.
 
The worst cases for me were the big KSA Krells. Huge weight. Had to ship on a pallet. Went in multiple times over many years. Levinson too.

Finally got tired of it and went back to tubes. Far less likely to need a trip if you pay attention to what your tubes are doing.

FWIW, service from Ray Mutchler and Pat Brosnihan (sp?) at Krell was always excellent
I’ve owned giant solid state amplifiers (e.g., Krell 700cx) and large tube amplifiers (ARC Ref 210). Recently I decided to explore horn loudspeakers and got a pair of Klipsch La Scalas. What a game changer. Now I look for small SET amplifiers— one of my reference SET amps uses 45 tubes and puts out a massive 1 watt. That sounds louder to my ears on my La Scalas than the ultra massive Ref 210s on my Harbeth Monitor 40.1s. Needless to say, I won’t be buying any more ginormous solid state or tube amps. My Ref 210 has not been turned on in almost a year. I want to sell it and there’s no way I want a tube amp with 8 KT 120 tubes per channel any more. Makes a nice room heater.

So, if you’re tired of schlepping around giant amps of any variety, consider getting a good pair of horn loudspeakers. It may change your life as it has mine. Making a loudspeaker 20 dB more efficient means the amp can be 10-20 times lighter and cooler. The La Scalas are also very smooth sounding with SETs and I’m enjoying listening to a wide range of music, from choral to jazz to opera and rock. There’s no deep bass. You’ll need a good pair of subs. I use a pair of REL G1 Mk2 Gibraltars for deep bass. The La Scalas sound perfectly fine without them but for occasional head banging with pipe organ music, the RELs are useful.

Too bad ARC never designed a SET. Neither did Conrad Johnson or McIntosh. Fortunately there’s a great variety of boutique designers who produce SETs, and of course Japanese exotica (Shindo, Yamomoto etc.).
 
It’s not silly. Dave did not figure it out before it was too late to avoid the receivership.
They need to figure out how to get back to positive cash flow. The alternative is failure. The overhead looks like a good place to start.

Dave said in the video that they needed more space. I bet their lease expense is nothing compared to the parts expense that played a role in the receivership.
 
Dave said in the video that they needed more space. I bet their lease expense is nothing compared to the parts expense that played a role in the receivership.
He was just justifying it to MF.
Nevertheless… it would be wonderful if Mr. Cora can put it to good use.
I want them to succeed. I hope they have someone with manufacturing expertise on their team (beyond granite speaker manufacturing).
I love my ARC based system. I want it to be my endgame system.
One thing I did not realize that I learned from the MF video is that ARC legally protected “High Definition” as it is used on audio equipment. In my opinion the high definition claim that WZJ made is a legitimate descriptor. Compared to my modern CJ gear, the ARC gear is really ultra high definition.
 
As always,don't worry about the quality of the seats. Just put a___s in seats.
 
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"Srong work ethic?" As an urban. We call it type A or work -aholic . We may tend ro change employment more often and better pay/benefits overall.
God bless the workers of Utah and TN
A lot of folks do the calculus and decide that living in the city is not worth it to them.
There is peace living with family and friends in a rural setting that often trumps the extra salary and benefits that might come from a move.
As an example, during my career (I’m now long retired) I was offered jobs at various times in NYC, Boston, and other urban settings. The salaries and benefits packages were typically 30% higher. But after figuring in the costs of insurance, taxes, extraneous things like parking, it was actually a financial wash.
Everyone makes the decisions that they believe are optimal for their circumstances. Many things factor in. In urban settings, most people vote for rules to protect them from their fellow citizens. In rural areas, many vote for the freedom to live unhindered by what they deem to be unnecessary control of their personal decisions. YMMV, of course.
 
Another benifit of rural living is many have owned the homestead for over 100 years. Let's just dispense with the wwork ethic stereotype. The benefits and drawbacks are well documented. I will not revisit them all here.
Right now, Adiio Research is like a horse race. Don;t throw away your betting slips until after the stewaards complete thier inquiry.
 
I’ve owned giant solid state amplifiers (e.g., Krell 700cx) and large tube amplifiers (ARC Ref 210). Recently I decided to explore horn loudspeakers and got a pair of Klipsch La Scalas. What a game changer. Now I look for small SET amplifiers— one of my reference SET amps uses 45 tubes and puts out a massive 1 watt. That sounds louder to my ears on my La Scalas than the ultra massive Ref 210s on my Harbeth Monitor 40.1s. Needless to say, I won’t be buying any more ginormous solid state or tube amps. My Ref 210 has not been turned on in almost a year. I want to sell it and there’s no way I want a tube amp with 8 KT 120 tubes per channel any more. Makes a nice room heater.

So, if you’re tired of schlepping around giant amps of any variety, consider getting a good pair of horn loudspeakers. It may change your life as it has mine. Making a loudspeaker 20 dB more efficient means the amp can be 10-20 times lighter and cooler. The La Scalas are also very smooth sounding with SETs and I’m enjoying listening to a wide range of music, from choral to jazz to opera and rock. There’s no deep bass. You’ll need a good pair of subs. I use a pair of REL G1 Mk2 Gibraltars for deep bass. The La Scalas sound perfectly fine without them but for occasional head banging with pipe organ music, the RELs are useful.

Too bad ARC never designed a SET. Neither did Conrad Johnson or McIntosh. Fortunately there’s a great variety of boutique designers who produce SETs, and of course Japanese exotica (Shindo, Yamomoto etc.).
Nice story and background info, thanks for sharing. Don't mean to digress here but since you brought up the SET topic and the differences between big high powered tube amps, I can certainly relate to that! Going from Apogee Diva's to Infinity's IRS 1B and Epsilon, numerous Maggie's and Quad ESL's, in such cases SET amps didn't quite get there. Most of these types of speakers, especially the Diva's and Infinity's aren't very amplifier friendly. So my final quest was heading in the direction of Avant Garde Duo XD's matched with the Kondo Audio Note Overture amp or SET monos from Manley Labs, and call it a day. May have even considered Lamm SETs at one point, which was another superb audition. After another year or so of fiddling around, I happened to bump into the ML CLX's, the rest is history! So although no SET amps in my current set-up, it would certainly be nice to have one as a second system.

Cheers to SET!
Woof! RJ
 
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A lot of folks do the calculus and decide that living in the city is not worth it to them.
There is peace living with family and friends in a rural setting that often trumps the extra salary and benefits that might come from a move.
As an example, during my career (I’m now long retired) I was offered jobs at various times in NYC, Boston, and other urban settings. The salaries and benefits packages were typically 30% higher. But after figuring in the costs of insurance, taxes, extraneous things like parking, it was actually a financial wash.
Everyone makes the decisions that they believe are optimal for their circumstances. Many things factor in. In urban settings, most people vote for rules to protect them from their fellow citizens. In rural areas, many vote for the freedom to live unhindered by what they deem to be unnecessary control of their personal decisions. YMMV, of course.
After living a blissful country life as a tenured academic professor in rural Western Massachusetts for almost 20 years, where I lived 3 miles from my university in a lovely 2.5 acre house on a idyllic hill with a gorgeous view, I made a career changing decision of moving to the San Francisco Bay Area 5 years ago. Boy, was I in for a shock! Yes, my salary went up by a factor of 5x (mostly because in the tech industry, salaries are a complex combination of regular salary, stock awards, and yearly bonuses), but the cost of living skyrocketed as well. Now, I live in a house in a tiny lot (by comparison to my rural Massachusetts house), and it cost me 4x the price of my Massachusetts house. I don’t regret the move — you only live once, and working in the field of AI, the Bay Area is as close to AI Mecca as you can get to today — it’s a crazy scene here for would-be home buyers. Prices in my not so elite average town are now roughly $2 million for a house that would cost probably 10 times less in many parts of the US. As you get closer to the middle of the peninsula (Palo Alto, Mountain View, Cupertino), prices skyrocket. One of my team members bought a house near the Apple spaceship campus roughly a third of the size of my house, and it cost him almost $2.5M and an extra 500 grand to remodel the 100 year old house so it was up to code. Welcome to the Bay Area!
 
After living a blissful country life as a tenured academic professor in rural Western Massachusetts for almost 20 years, where I lived 3 miles from my university in a lovely 2.5 acre house on a idyllic hill with a gorgeous view, I made a career changing decision of moving to the San Francisco Bay Area 5 years ago. Boy, was I in for a shock! Yes, my salary went up by a factor of 5x (mostly because in the tech industry, salaries are a complex combination of regular salary, stock awards, and yearly bonuses), but the cost of living skyrocketed as well. Now, I live in a house in a tiny lot (by comparison to my rural Massachusetts house), and it cost me 4x the price of my Massachusetts house. I don’t regret the move — you only live once, and working in the field of AI, the Bay Area is as close to AI Mecca as you can get to today — it’s a crazy scene here for would-be home buyers. Prices in my not so elite average town are now roughly $2 million for a house that would cost probably 10 times less in many parts of the US. As you get closer to the middle of the peninsula (Palo Alto, Mountain View, Cupertino), prices skyrocket. One of my team members bought a house near the Apple spaceship campus roughly a third of the size of my house, and it cost him almost $2.5M and an extra 500 grand to remodel the 100 year old house so it was up to code. Welcome to the Bay Area!
One of my long held beliefs is that it is a bad exchange to trade time for money. Time is pricelessly finite. Money has no value except to the extent that it facilitates your ability to improve the lives of your family, friends and community. But I admit that I might have been swayed by a quintupling of salary if it required similar levels of my time.

FWIW, since the dawn of AI, it has been my belief that while Artificial Intelligence is possible, all stupidity is genuine.
 
One of my long held beliefs is that it is a bad exchange to trade time for money. Time is pricelessly finite. Money has no value except to the extent that it facilitates your ability to improve the lives of your family, friends and community. But I admit that I might have been swayed by a quintupling of salary if it required similar levels of my time.

FWIW, since the dawn of AI, it has been my belief that while Artificial Intelligence is possible, all stupidity is genuine.

Perhaps you could elaborate on your thoughts over here:

 
I just watched the MF video, it seemed DGordon and the others were just happy to still have jobs. DG spent alot of time showing all the legacy products..f--k that! Show us the plan moving forward. Poor solo tech looked like he was ready to jump ship. And who were the guys lurking in the background not contributing a thing? It felt Gordon had to beg the few guys to stay for the video. What a laid-back presentation. No leadership came thru from anyone in the video. Gordon certainly isn't the guy to lead the company. Man, the vibe felt real bad.....
 

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