Best audiophile switch

[sbnx]

This is how the cable is constructed.

 

[sbnx]

Genius. Why are ethernet cables all jammed together? Because there are hundreds in tight spaces in server farms or they have to be run through walls etc. that is not a requirement for a high performance audio system.

 

[pk_LA]

This is how the cable is constructed.

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I will delete post! Also, just zoomed in and noticed 7 lines (vs 8 for RJ45) anyway.

 

[PYP]

Me thinks you are getting rid of noise.

Tom

me too. I assume that each device before the streamer eliminates noise in different ways. Or is it different noise? For me, the goal is to eliminate noise but not add a sound signature to the streamer.

Connecting a hifi to a network is really asking for trouble, but streaming is a way of life for me now. So much music to discover.

 

[ConG2]

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I use the switch and also the Ethernet isolator. Greizer soundstage, no noice, everything is precise and all in a very good musical way.

 

[NigelB]

I will delete post! Also, just zoomed in and noticed 7 lines (vs 8 for RJ45) anyway.

4 twisted pairs separated by 3 spacer tubes.

 

[Elliot G.]

4 twisted pairs separated by 3 spacer tubes.

I left the new ethernet cable playing in my system overnight and felt to be fair I wanted to get some hours on it before I sit and give the system a listen.
That was early yesterday and I just finished a brief listening session with the system. Wen you are opening a new place there is always interruptions lol. The city of Boca Raton has more regulations than one can possible believe and a fee for every one of them LOL
Back to the music.
The cable and or the system has changed since yesterday. The sound yesterday had a purity to it but perhaps a little edgy or maybe the word cool is better. I found when playing especially large pieces and loud piano and vocals it was a bit off to my ear. That has changed today and not in a small way. I have that audio smile that means i am liking my system and liking it a lot. There is a real sense of purity and this is the relaxed version not the cold or cool version that happens a lot with new things. I don't have any idea of what can happen and if this is it or is there more still to come however if this is it I am happy . Ill report back in a day or two

 

[Di-fi]

I left the new ethernet cable playing in my system overnight and felt to be fair I wanted to get some hours on it before I sit and give the system a listen.
That was early yesterday and I just finished a brief listening session with the system. Wen you are opening a new place there is always interruptions lol. The city of Boca Raton has more regulations than one can possible believe and a fee for every one of them LOL
Back to the music.
The cable and or the system has changed since yesterday. The sound yesterday had a purity to it but perhaps a little edgy or maybe the word cool is better. I found when playing especially large pieces and loud piano and vocals it was a bit off to my ear. That has changed today and not in a small way. I have that audio smile that means i am liking my system and liking it a lot. There is a real sense of purity and this is the relaxed version not the cold or cool version that happens a lot with new things. I don't have any idea of what can happen and if this is it or is there more still to come however if this is it I am happy . Ill report back in a day or two

Thanks for sharing! Many users here seem to agree that the audio network starts somewhere after the router, extending up to the streamer or DAC—in your case, the Wadax server.

Would you mind sharing a bit more about your setup and what you're using upstream of the Reiki? Is it powered by a Reiki separate power supply? Do you stream?

Also, could you try some A-B-A testing by swapping the JundoStream cable with your previous best Ethernet cable, while keeping the Reiki switch in place? What do you compare it to? Even though it's tricky, we try to compare apples to apples when we can. And last but not least, you seem to have extensive expertise in the industry. May I ask if you represent any specific brands?
Looking forward to your report!

 

[Di-fi]

Genius. Why are ethernet cables all jammed together? Because there are hundreds in tight spaces in server farms or they have to be run through walls etc. that is not a requirement for a high performance audio system.

Except for these also ;-)

 

[Elliot G.]

Thanks for sharing! Many users here seem to agree that the audio network starts somewhere after the router, extending up to the streamer or DAC—in your case, the Wadax server.

Would you mind sharing a bit more about your setup and what you're using upstream of the Reiki? Is it powered by a Reiki separate power supply? Do you stream?

Also, could you try some A-B-A testing by swapping the JundoStream cable with your previous best Ethernet cable, while keeping the Reiki switch in place? What do you compare it to? Even though it's tricky, we try to compare apples to apples when we can. And last but not least, you seem to have extensive expertise in the industry. May I ask if you represent any specific brands?
Looking forward to your report!

I am using a Reiki Switch and separate power supply. I think Its the Pro plus and I had Nigel's Raku stream ethernet running from the switch to the Wadax Ref Server. the entire system is grounded using the Shunyata Aletaira and electrically all plugged into a Typhon T30 and a Denali. I changed to the Jundo Stream Yesterday morning and used it all day and left the server playing all night and this morning.
I also am using a Shunyata Omega ethernet running from the wall to the input of the switch. I forgot that .
I have my system which is Gobel Divin Noblesse with two Sovereign Subs, Riviera Audio Labs Mono Blocks 100's and their APL-01 Se preamp, ill ignore all the cables Gobel and power cords Shunyata and I think thats it.
Ok so I have moved and I have been working in my new room for around two weeks. I dont spend all day in there but I do try to wor a little on the system when I can. I had it sounding really good last week and all along its the same.
I only changed the ethernet cable from the Reku stream to the Jundo stream period.
I have not done anything else.
Yesterday it was a little cool or tight or whatever word you would like to use for a cable that isn't quite soup yet.
Today its very different .
I am not sure how much more it will change since this is something new to me. I was texting with Nigel today and wanted to sort of understand what he did and why it is different. I m not a techie at all.
My guess is the cable still could use a few more hours to become its best version of itself but I don't know that. I'm just taking this from my experience that 3 or so days is required for most. We can argue about the hours but that's how I feel.

I know my system . I like the switch and I'm not removing it and haven't' since I got it. I haven't changed the cable since I got that either. However swapping the cable for the new cable of course is very easy and is audible from the jump even with a few "warts" The good news is the warts are gone and the frog is becoming a prince
More to follow

 

[NigelB]

Except for these also ;-)

I’m afraid not! Variable twist rates are essential in both

 

[Di-fi]

I’m afraid not! Variable twist rates are essential in both

Admittedly, the only thing they have in common is their flatness!

(...) The answer is of course to physically separate out the twisted pairs so that they can all share the same twist rate as the highest (for noise rejection) but without the risk of crosstalk; the JundoStream consists of 4 twisted pairs with a twist rate exceeding Cat 8, laid out in parallel and interspersed with 3 air-filled silicone spacer tubes to maintain a consistent distance between pairs.(...)

© Reiki Audio : JundoStream : Reference Network Cable

 

[Republicoftexas69]

Except for these also ;-)

Or these: https://www.neotechcable.com/Ethernet-UP-OCC-Silver-Cable.html

 

[PYP]

Except for these also ;-)

I don't use any generic cable that uses metal connectors. The audiophile stuff can use those connectors since they usually lift the ground (well, that is my understanding anyway). Plastic connectors on generic cable can sound quite good, however.

My guess is the cable still could use a few more hours to become its best version of itself but I don't know that. I'm just taking this from my experience that 3 or so days is required for most. We can argue about the hours but that's how I feel.

I know my system . I like the switch and I'm not removing it and haven't' since I got it. I haven't changed the cable since I got that either. However swapping the cable for the new cable of course is very easy and is audible from the jump even with a few "warts" The good news is the warts are gone and the frog is becoming a prince
More to follow

If it only takes a few days, that is great! The Kubala-Sosna ethernet cable required a month! Uggghh.

Very cool looking cable. Looking forward to further impressions. You mentioned using a very good cable into the switch too. I have found that helps too.

What an amazing setup you have.

 

[Di-fi]

I don't use any generic cable

Same here, it was an Amazon find as an example of a flat cable. I should've gone with the @Republicoftexas69 Neotech example instead!

 

[NigelB]

Admittedly, the only thing they have in common is their flatness!

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© Reiki Audio : JundoStream : Reference Network Cable

Indeed!

 

[NigelB]

Or these: https://www.neotechcable.com/Ethernet-UP-OCC-Silver-Cable.html

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I'm a big fan of Neotech cables (currently trying their silver USB) but suspect you may be missing one or two technical design attributes in using this as a comparator. Flatness, you nailed!

 

[Republicoftexas69]

I'm a big fan of Neotech cables (currently trying their silver USB) but suspect you may be missing one or two technical design attributes in using this as a comparator. Flatness, you nailed!

I have both their Ethernet and USB cables luv them.

 

[Elliot G.]

I don't use any generic cable that uses metal connectors. The audiophile stuff can use those connectors since they usually lift the ground (well, that is my understanding anyway). Plastic connectors on generic cable can sound quite good, however.


If it only takes a few days, that is great! The Kubala-Sosna ethernet cable required a month! Uggghh.

Very cool looking cable. Looking forward to further impressions. You mentioned using a very good cable into the switch too. I have found that helps too.

What an amazing setup you have.

Thank you btw.
I am not giving the cable back , its part of my system going forward. No hyperbole, no Lucious words of wonder, no flowery descriptions, no use of the word best lol. Its costly yes but it has my recommendation and I am buying it.
I think btw it still may have some more growth left but this afternoon has been fun listening to some big classical pieces like Passacaglia for orchestra Stern and the KC, Finlandia for orchestra Eiji Oue and the Minnesota. A small measure of piece , a favorite of mine Hans Zimmer last Samurai sound track ( beautiful) and then all over the place including some very old rock and roll to see how some of these ok recordings sound and Billy Joel was very really good even if far from perfect. Summer Highland falls and Goodnight Saigon were enjoyed .
I think every once and a while something pops up for me and it is fun and advances what I have. That makes me happy since I have said many times if finds me I am not looking

 

[sbo6]

I am using a Reiki Switch and separate power supply. I think Its the Pro plus and I had Nigel's Raku stream ethernet running from the switch to the Wadax Ref Server. the entire system is grounded using the Shunyata Aletaira and electrically all plugged into a Typhon T30 and a Denali. I changed to the Jundo Stream Yesterday morning and used it all day and left the server playing all night and this morning.
I also am using a Shunyata Omega ethernet running from the wall to the input of the switch. I forgot that .
I have my system which is Gobel Divin Noblesse with two Sovereign Subs, Riviera Audio Labs Mono Blocks 100's and their APL-01 Se preamp, ill ignore all the cables Gobel and power cords Shunyata and I think thats it.
Ok so I have moved and I have been working in my new room for around two weeks. I dont spend all day in there but I do try to wor a little on the system when I can. I had it sounding really good last week and all along its the same.
I only changed the ethernet cable from the Reku stream to the Jundo stream period.
I have not done anything else.
Yesterday it was a little cool or tight or whatever word you would like to use for a cable that isn't quite soup yet.
Today its very different .
I am not sure how much more it will change since this is something new to me. I was texting with Nigel today and wanted to sort of understand what he did and why it is different. I m not a techie at all.
My guess is the cable still could use a few more hours to become its best version of itself but I don't know that. I'm just taking this from my experience that 3 or so days is required for most. We can argue about the hours but that's how I feel.

I know my system . I like the switch and I'm not removing it and haven't' since I got it. I haven't changed the cable since I got that either. However swapping the cable for the new cable of course is very easy and is audible from the jump even with a few "warts" The good news is the warts are gone and the frog is becoming a prince
More to follow

Great to hear. To reiterate what Di-fi asked which I'd like to know also, "Also, could you try some A-B-A testing by swapping the JundoStream cable with your previous best Ethernet cable, while keeping the Reiki switch in place? What do you compare it to?"