I have never heard the Wilson Audio in person, but I thought the Munich videos sounded pretty good.
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Sorry to say, but I heard very differently from one of my closest and honest sources. He heard it live and was not impressed AT ALL.
The thing is, that the gear by themselves are very fine pieces of machinery. I take it all the gear was brand new, all of it. I would say it would take at least 6-12 months just to get everything broken in… okay… Then we have the placement, I think at least another 6-12 months just to get a proper setup and proper placement… Then we have all the acoustic treatment needed in the specific room of placement to try out, which would probably be another X month to get right.
To think it will sound good just being thrown out in some show room is a joke. This was just a bling bling show down what is possible. To get that system to sound right would take years and years - believe me☝
.However…. I didn’t say it can’t be done.
Me too, I would love to optimize a system like that, and my conclusion: It would be mindblowing when finished, just saying
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The inherent complexity of the larger Wilsons is a factor and the limited sweet spot of the Alexx as well as the WAMM due to the mid/high arrays doesn't help either.
Then there's Wilson Audio's proprietary X-(cabinet)material, an extremely dense and hard composite, which contributes to overall signature.
Then there's Wilson Audio's proprietary X-(cabinet)material, an extremely dense and hard composite, which contributes to overall signature.
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To get that system to sound right would take years and years - believe me☝
Why would anyone buy such a system anyway? Sounds like a permanent headache instead of music.
It's not that hard to design a system that sounds good in less than ideal spaces, or with suboptimal placement.
I like both formats , but since I do a lot of working while listening to music I'm not in a chair . Having said this when I do drop a needle the immediate reaction is wow.
It takes just a second to know.
Digital is different in that if I play analog for a while and go back to digital its different.
Analog no matter how long I've played digital the time to notice is fast as in seemingly instant
In my garage I have a jam wifi box , I can stream from my server , apple box , phones
Can be tidal or xm radio. I can tell good tracks on bad and sounds great . Ear buds be it blue tooth of amped it's way better.
But drop a needle and holy smokes go back to digital it's wtf is wrong with this shiiitt .
Takes my old brain a bit to be ok and longer to be good again
I doubt if I'm alone I'm this view
So why would anyone want to interject digital in analog playback.
I'm being honest, and Hopkins videos sound good on phone or ear buds .
Anyone who says analog is complex is I think not understanding the situation. Digital is a pure minefield to make good and drop a needle and your back to what is wrong with this again
Now play digital a but things get better. No changes are done . This is our brains connecting the dots again .
Just my 2 cents
It takes just a second to know.
Digital is different in that if I play analog for a while and go back to digital its different.
Analog no matter how long I've played digital the time to notice is fast as in seemingly instant
In my garage I have a jam wifi box , I can stream from my server , apple box , phones
Can be tidal or xm radio. I can tell good tracks on bad and sounds great . Ear buds be it blue tooth of amped it's way better.
But drop a needle and holy smokes go back to digital it's wtf is wrong with this shiiitt .
Takes my old brain a bit to be ok and longer to be good again
I doubt if I'm alone I'm this view
So why would anyone want to interject digital in analog playback.
I'm being honest, and Hopkins videos sound good on phone or ear buds .
Anyone who says analog is complex is I think not understanding the situation. Digital is a pure minefield to make good and drop a needle and your back to what is wrong with this again
Now play digital a but things get better. No changes are done . This is our brains connecting the dots again .
Just my 2 cents
Your right but this is high end audio. I don't think and high end system is easy , if you go above book shelf or very near field setup
Analog is not only complex because of continuity > behavior and processing are highly dependent on physical properties such as voltage, current, temperature and noise - but also chaotic due to the (near)infinite amount of subsystems involved.
Whereas digital - as long as the signal (datastream) remains in the digital domain, is predictable and reconstructable.
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Electronic stereo reprocessing of the original historic recording. It was produced using the master tape made in February 1953.
Digitized by Patrick Wong from LP: RCA SB-2123 (Released: 1961).
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Digital vs analog is a complicated topic. So much has been said about it, I don't see the benefit of arguing about it again in this thread...
Why would anyone buy a Bugatti, when you just can have a regular VW? Why go into space when you can stay on earth…? Maybe because the space is there. Maybe because you like the challenge, and see how far you can take it.
If you got the money and muscle - why not.
Yes but why go to space in a rocket you know will explode on take off?
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because you want to be a celebrated hero once in your life that everyone remembers.
Although today it probably has no value anymore, anyone with a bit of money can have Space X shoot them into orbit. Heroism has only a short half-life these days.
Well I don’t necessarily agree with you on this.
You got a point, but there are also opportunities to explore. That’s why I mean why not.
Sorry to say, but I heard very differently from one of my closest and honest sources. He heard it live and was not impressed AT ALL.
The thing is, that the gear by themselves are very fine pieces of machinery. I take it all the gear was brand new, all of it. I would say it would take at least 6-12 months just to get everything broken in… okay… Then we have the placement, I think at least another 6-12 months just to get a proper setup and proper placement… Then we have all the acoustic treatment needed in the specific room of placement to try out, which would probably be another X month to get right.
To think it will sound good just being thrown out in some show room is a joke. This was just a bling bling show down what is possible. To get that system to sound right would take years and years - believe me☝
However…. I didn’t say it can’t be done.
Me too, I would love to optimize a system like that, and my conclusion: It would be mindblowing when finished, just saying
LOL Johan. My source was also there and heard it in person. He is in the hifi media. he was mightily impressed. Perhaps they gave him the sweetspot
I try to multitask.. driving the mobile crane at the same time… not easy for an old bodybuilder… LOL..
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