The Grid Protector, the EMI Protector and The Allocator By Schnerzinger-In My System and I’m Blown Away

[Kingsrule]

From the manual sets are even numbers

 

[Steve Williams]

I'm pretty sure that refers to the number of reflectors in each set. The manual showed 2,4 or 6 Reflectors

 

[Mobiusman]

There is a lot of talk in audio land about the impact of the Schnerzinger products. Gideon was here yesterday setting up my EMI and RFI boxes. First, let me state, that as an audio fanatic for more than 65 years, I have no doubt that they make a difference. Whether you like the difference is personal. In my system, which is fairly high resolution, the impact was instantaneous and very adjustable to the point that they are keepers

The best way I can describe their impact is they substantially drop the noise floor, with the ability to tune the nature of the impact. Overall the next thing I can say is that they greatly increase involvement, one of most important parameters for me. They are clearly changing and thus I am still learning and vary their impact depending on source, but all of it is very positive.

I was sufficiently impressed that I ordered 5 of their newest product, the Reflector(1 master box and 4 peripheral units.). I am 76 and while I am financially comfortable, I am not ready to buy the Zellaton speakers now and maybe never because I just want to listen to my system, and the Schnerzinger boxes are like major component upgrades, both in sound and cost, and have improved my sound substantially already in less than 24 hours, and I have 7 more units coming my way.

I will keep you posted, but expect the news to be very positive.

 

[Jazzjunkie]

Shunyata does not "filter". It is well documented by 3rd parties that Shunyata does offer surge protection without degrading sound.

The thing is, usually those (manufacturers and customers) who don’t bother with the influences of HF as Schnerzinger does and who don’t have the conductivity of Schnerzinger connections as a basis, are not aware what degrades sound in this regard. You have to switch from theory to practice. The potential of the Schnerzinger stuff lies in preserving speed, bandwidth and resolution with dedicated and puristic solutions at the connectivity parts and dedicated, separate solutions for noise/interference elimination. I’m convinced you’d hear the negative impact of anything that breaks or complicates a Schnerzinger optimized signal path, too. Until you do, you can’t tell what you’d be missing or not, because you haven’t experienced it, but you can certainly suspect.

 

[Audioarts]

The thing is, usually those (manufacturers and customers) who don’t bother with the influences of HF as Schnerzinger does and who don’t have the conductivity of Schnerzinger connections as a basis, are not aware what degrades sound in this regard. You have to switch from theory to practice. The potential of the Schnerzinger stuff lies in preserving speed, bandwidth and resolution with dedicated and puristic solutions at the connectivity parts and dedicated, separate solutions for noise/interference elimination. I’m convinced you’d hear the negative impact of anything that breaks or complicates a Schnerzinger optimized signal path, too. Until you do, you can’t tell what you’d be missing or not, because you haven’t experienced it, but you can certainly suspect.

Very well articulated.

 

[Audioarts]

There is a lot of talk in audio land about the impact of the Schnerzinger products. Gideon was here yesterday setting up my EMI and RFI boxes. First, let me state, that as an audio fanatic for more than 65 years, I have no doubt that they make a difference. Whether you like the difference is personal. In my system, which is fairly high resolution, the impact was instantaneous and very adjustable to the point that they are keepers

The best way I can describe their impact is they substantially drop the noise floor, with the ability to tune the nature of the impact. Overall the next thing I can say is that they greatly increase involvement, one of most important parameters for me. They are clearly changing and thus I am still learning and vary their impact depending on source, but all of it is very positive.

I was sufficiently impressed that I ordered 5 of their newest product, the Reflector(1 master box and 4 peripheral units.). I am 76 and while I am financially comfortable, I am not ready to buy the Zellaton speakers now and maybe never because I just want to listen to my system, and the Schnerzinger boxes are like major component upgrades, both in sound and cost, and have improved my sound substantially already in less than 24 hours, and I have 7 more units coming my way.

I will keep you posted, but expect the news to be very positive.

Russ -
Really enjoyed locking these in with you yesterday, and can’t wait for the next installment. Over the next few days your system will take on even greater ease/fluidity with increased musical layering and natural unforced resolution. Just keeps getting more and more immersive….., enjoy!

 

[Steve Williams]

The thing is, usually those (manufacturers and customers) who don’t bother with the influences of HF as Schnerzinger does and who don’t have the conductivity of Schnerzinger connections as a basis, are not aware what degrades sound in this regard. You have to switch from theory to practice. The potential of the Schnerzinger stuff lies in preserving speed, bandwidth and resolution with dedicated and puristic solutions at the connectivity parts and dedicated, separate solutions for noise/interference elimination. I’m convinced you’d hear the negative impact of anything that breaks or complicates a Schnerzinger optimized signal path, too. Until you do, you can’t tell what you’d be missing or not, because you haven’t experienced it, but you can certainly suspect.

indeed a well stated post. Makes me look forward even more to getting the Reflectors into my room

 

[treitz3]

Steve, what do the reflectors do? I am admittedly a little bit confused on those? Do they reflect the EMI/RFI or something else?

Please advise and thanks.

Tom

 

[Steve Williams]

as I understand it Tom it eliminates the higher frequencies . A different antenna system . Meant to complement the EMI and Grid Protectors. I wish I understood the basics behind these boxes Tom but every time I add one the sound becomes so much more immersive .As jazzjunkie so eloquently stated a few posts up one really can say all they want about other products, some of which I have used. The Schnerzinger units however are so unique that they really enhance all systems. They add nothing. It's what they remove where the magic comes in

REFLECTOR - Schnerzinger

The REFLECTOR system protect the listening room from external and internal high-frequency electromagnetic interference fields.

www.schnerzinger.com

 

[treitz3]

Thank you sir. These are indeed some really special products, from what I am reading here. Very nice!

Tom

 

[Jazzjunkie]

Makes me look forward even more to getting the Reflectors into my room

Yes and I just want to encourage folks, at least once they entered the Schnerz wall warts/distributor and/or cabling world together with the Giga Cancelling Grid protection devices, to experiment and take out anything they put into the cirquit before like filtering fuses or distributors, surge protection, Shunyata, Gryphon or Audioquest this and that (even if it worked very well before). Just try. Often such parts now limit due to the new level of resolution and the non compromising noise cancelling instead of as it seems, more compromising technologies.

 

[Steve Williams]

Schnerzinger is a complete system. It all depends on one’s budget and how far down the rabbit hole they want to go. I must admit that so far for me each additional product brings something new to the table. From what I’m hearing the reflector is the icing on the cake

 

[sheridd2]

Hi ..... my first post in this forum.
I've been following Steve's new Zellaton speaker thread, after following this thread initially.
This thread took me down the path of purchasing the Grid and EMI protectors.
The Grid came first and the EMI a couple of months later.
I've used Stack Audio footers on a lot of my equipment with great success.
When the Grid protector came along I had 4 spare Stack Audio CSA1's available so I put them under it.
When the EMI protector arrived I had 3 CSA1's available and they went under it.
Like everyone else I enjoyed the update immensely.
I found the Grid brought more detail and the EMI naturalness, to the sound.

Now I'm getting to the point of the post.
I recently bought a LPS for my video processor and I was getting a lot of noise from the LPS.
So I borrowed my 7 CSA1's from my Schnerzinger kit to isolate the video processor and LPS.
This did reduce the LPS noise significantly.
But what I also found that my music system, without the Stack Audio footers under the Schnerzinger kit, lost a lot.
It lost bass leading to a lack of authority.
The sound was still there but I couldn't enjoy it the same, it didn't keep my interest, there was something lacking.

Yesterday I received 7 more footers to replace the ones I borrowed earlier from the Schnerzinger components.
Now the music regained it's authority, calmness, imaging and naturalness again.
In hindsight I am really surprised at how much the Stack Audio footers bring to the Schnerzinger sound.
Like most upgrades you only notice it when it is removed from the system

I strongly encourage any other Schnerzinger owners to test the footers with these products.
For me they are now an essential part of the Schnerzinger equation.

(I'll probably add a fourth to the EMI protector just to keep it the same as the Grid protector.)

 

[Steve Williams]

Hi ..... my first post in this forum.
I've been following Steve's new Zellaton speaker thread, after following this thread initially.
This thread took me down the path of purchasing the Grid and EMI protectors.
The Grid came first and the EMI a couple of months later.
I've used Stack Audio footers on a lot of my equipment with great success.
When the Grid protector came along I had 4 spare Stack Audio CSA1's available so I put them under it.
When the EMI protector arrived I had 3 CSA1's available and they went under it.
Like everyone else I enjoyed the update immensely.
I found the Grid brought more detail and the EMI naturalness, to the sound.

Now I'm getting to the point of the post.
I recently bought a LPS for my video processor and I was getting a lot of noise from the LPS.
So I borrowed my 7 CSA1's from my Schnerzinger kit to isolate the video processor and LPS.
This did reduce the LPS noise significantly.
But what I also found that my music system, without the Stack Audio footers under the Schnerzinger kit, lost a lot.
It lost bass leading to a lack of authority.
The sound was still there but I couldn't enjoy it the same, it didn't keep my interest, there was something lacking.

Yesterday I received 7 more footers to replace the ones I borrowed earlier from the Schnerzinger components.
Now the music regained it's authority, calmness, imaging and naturalness again.
In hindsight I am really surprised at how much the Stack Audio footers bring to the Schnerzinger sound.
Like most upgrades you only notice it when it is removed from the system

I strongly encourage any other Schnerzinger owners to test the footers with these products.
For me they are now an essential part of the Schnerzinger equation.

(I'll probably add a fourth to the EMI protector just to keep it the same as the Grid protector.)

I hear you BUT it’s recommended for best performance the Grid and EMI Protectors should be elevated 40” above the floor. I use a simple $39 for set of 2 speaker holders with amazing results

 

[Steve Williams]

here is what I use and strongly recommend. Price went up tp $44. Takes 5 minutes to assemble

https://www.amazon.com/PERLESMITH-Universal-Adjustable-Satellite-Bookshelf/dp/B08J7QWJ91?pd_rd_w=PJ7Hw&content-id=amzn1.sym.45043bc5-39d3-4a08-9d5a-9a96e866160d&pf_rd_p=45043bc5-39d3-4a08-9d5a-9a96e866160d&pf_rd_r=WK9Q03P4WX9K12999FJE&pd_rd_wg=LyD2k&pd_rd_r=fe8807ce-565d-41d2-a9d2-ae86104d721a&pd_rd_i=B08J7QWJ91&psc=1&ref_=pd_bap_d_grid_rp_0_23_t

 

[Steve Williams]

 

[Steve Williams]

Im glad there's new life in this thread as I can't wait to receive my Schnerzinger Reflectors. When Gideon was setting up my Zellaton Reference Ultra Speakers he changed the settings on my EMO and Grid Protectors and in the course of doing so he commented that the Reflectors are the Best of Show

 

[Steve Williams]

I use the same speaker stand for the Schnerzinger Master for the Multiguards also with great results

 

[sheridd2]

I do have both my Grid and EMI protectors elevated.

 

[Steve Williams]

I do have both my Grid and EMI protectors elevated.

but this footers arent 40"tall

BTW @Zeotrope found even better results using DC and not the wall warts that come with the Grid and EMI