Oscars 2019 | Discussion: Speculation - Prediction - Film/Actor Critic Opinion

Bruce B

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The Oscars has turned into the Grammys... just a Political popularity contest!! Neither for me please....
 
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I was very happy for[Regina King]who started as a child star in[227]and Spike Lee finally got some recognition.
 

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I was very happy for[Regina King]who started as a child star in[227]and Spike Lee finally got some recognition.

Spike Lee is a phenomenal film maker and has made some of my most favorite films ( Do the Right Thing, The Inside Man, Malcolm X). Unfortunately the Oscars is a political competition and he does not play the game. I'm happy that has been recognized.
 

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Movies are like music; we analyse and scrutinize everything to the depth of their impact on our brain and emotional stance. It's what makes us tick.

The Oscars are no different, their popular impact from the public theaters to our streaming homes get our votes or comments of discontent.

There are as many music and film critics as there are music listeners and movie watchers,
We all have our favorites for various reasons, and the ones we don't like for different various reasons.

We are a high end class of audiophiles more than a high end class of videophiles here in these pages graciously filled by our comments. ...From the interest given; fact.

Our characters developed from our life's experiences and from our values from them.
We hear differently than our best partners and we also see differently.
We agree for simplicity and convenience and don't want to cause any discord by having a different take on the music we love compared to someone's else music she loves.

With films it is the same; we want peace not war, with everyone.

Green Book won the top prize last night; the Academy voters have spoken.
They want nothing to do with streaming films like from Netflix, zero.

Was it a better film than BlacKkKlansman, than A Star Is Born, than Bohemian Rhapsody, than The Favourite, than Black Panther? It all depends on who you ask.

But no film from Netflix is going to change the movie business in Hollywood, not Roma and not even The Irishman in 2019. Hollywood has spoken, the 7,902 people from the film industry of all ages and film sectors have decided who stays in their book...Green Book...the top winner of 2018.

And all the controversies are vapor in this movie love affair.
We are a diversified human race of various colors and inclinations.
We vote with our popular preference to remain popular with our beliefs in music and in films around the world. The Oscars belong to Hollywood first; that's where it started and that's where it still remains, not on Netfilx.

The three amigos from Mexico (Cuarón, del Toro and Iñárritu) have been accepted in the Hollywood film circle, but not Netflix.

Spike Lee is a funny guy, but also very direct, not shy.
When Green Book was announced he almost left the building, and later on said that the ref made a bad call. There are two sides of that flip coin; mine is that he has to accept what the game is all about. He is not alone in digesting with a stomach ache. He is unique @ not hiding it in the grand room where everyone gather together in a grand parade to reward the people who made the films with the actors having the most popular votes.

This is no accident, not a chance, this is no calculation, not in hundred years, this is all well oiled and orchestrated from a fair and just voting system supporting the Hollywood film industry.
Green Book didn't win by accident, it all started in Toronto many months ago.
The Film itself and what it represents we all know very very very well...it is written all over the pages of film critics who know more about films than your next door neighbor.
A Netflix film is neither an accident. Roma wasn't made for TV, it was made for the big screen.
It just happened to fall in Netflix hands by pure magic chemistry ...

All the film expert critics in the world cannot influence the Hollywood movie business outcome, zero. It's the way it is in Hollywood. And we love it just as is.
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Is it the number of trophies, the grand prize of honor, or is it all the films we love and hate that makes life worth living? Music is the exact same, climbing mountains, travelling the oceans, dining in restaurants, cooking @ home.
 

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The Oscars has turned into the Grammys... just a Political popularity contest!! Neither for me please....
Really, the Agitprop Awards would be a more apropos. Society for Smarmy Social Brainwashing and Political Correctness might be another. I honestly can't watch these air-kiss gush fests for minutes any more. They are untethered from ANYTHING either real OR imaginative except occasional stage managed fake moral outrage or fake encomium.
Movies used to be fun, now they are just a pile of rhinestone sweat socks.
 

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Number of viewers for the Oscars (TV) since Oscars 2000 Awards (19 years):

2019: 29.6 million, Green Book (No host)
2018: 26.5 million, The Shape of Water (Jimmy Kimmel)
2017: 32.9 million, Moonlight (Jimmy Kimmel)
2016: 34.4 million, Spotlight (Chris Rock)
2015: 37.3 million, Birdman (Neil Patrick Harris)
2014: 43.7 million, 12 Years a Slave (Ellen DeGeneres)
2013: 40.3 million, Argo (Seth MacFarlane)
2012: 39.3 million, The Artist (Billy Crystal)
2011: 37.9 million, The King’s Speech (Anne Hathaway/James Franco)
2010: 41.3 million, The Hurt Locker (Steve Martin/Alec Baldwin)
2009: 36.3 million, Slumdog Millionaire (Hugh Jackman)
2008: 32.0 million, No Country For Old Men (Jon Stewart)
2007: 40. 2 million, The Departed (Ellen DeGeneres)
2006: 38.9 million, Crash (Jon Stewart)
2005 42.1 million, Million Dollar Baby (Chris Rock)
2004: 43.5 million, The Lord Of The Rings: The Return of the King (Billy Crystal)
2003: 33.0 million, Chicago (Steve Martin)
2002: 41.8 million, A Beautiful Mind (Whoopi Goldberg)
2001: 42.9 million, Gladiator (Steve Martin)

* Last night they reached 3.1 million more viewers than the preceding year.
Not bad; if Netflix get more nominations (The Irishman) next year it would be very good for the Hollywood movie machine. Theaters would get their projectors and sound systems calibrated with THX certification (picture & sound). ...Dolby Cinema, Atmos, IMAX (((REAL))) 3D - figure of speech.
Movie tickets are more rentable/profitable to "our clientèle" than streaming subscriptions from Amazon, Apple and Netflix.
 
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I was just checking and reading around ...

? https://www.latimes.com/entertainme...worst-best-picture-winner-20190224-story.html

? https://www.usatoday.com/story/life...ok-wasnt-best-choice-best-picture/2977060002/
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Different film critics, different film opinions ...

It's the popular vote that counts, with or without Netflix...but best without for AMPAS.

¤ https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/25/movies/oscars-critics-green-book.html

* Spike Lee; he's not a true filmmaker, he's a documentary culture leader in a chaotic world of confusion and corruption and discrimination. He's a cult exposition, a costumed cartoon, a pair of glasses on a caricature, a walking book, a purple suit, an Oscar winner (Best Adapted Screenplay) for the first time.
 
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Really, the Agitprop Awards would be a more apropos. Society for Smarmy Social Brainwashing and Political Correctness might be another. I honestly can't watch these air-kiss gush fests for minutes any more. They are untethered from ANYTHING either real OR imaginative except occasional stage managed fake moral outrage or fake encomium.
Movies used to be fun, now they are just a pile of rhinestone sweat socks.

Carl, it's much safer with hi-fi stereo.


* Bonus (not sure how truly safe the Grammys Gramophone is):
 
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* Spike Lee; he's not a true filmmaker, he's a documentary culture leader in a chaotic world of confusion and corruption and discrimination. He's a cult exposition, a costumed cartoon, a pair of glasses on a caricature, a walking book, a purple suit, an Oscar winner (Best Adapted Screenplay) for the first time.

Here is a guy who had the balls to say that Green Book was a bad film because it didn't get racism "right". Whose the racist now Mr. Lee?
His histrionics at the podium were despicable. Unless I missed it, at least he doesn't call his movies a "Spike Lee Joint" anymore, one of the most self-aggrandizing shams in the history of movie making. Too bad. Some of his stuff such as Malcolm X and Do The Right Thing were outstanding films.
 
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"Visual effects supervisor Paul Lambert of VFX house DNEG—who won consecutive Oscars for First Man and Blade Runner 2049—is reteaming with his Blade Runner helmer Denis Villeneuve on Dune.

Nominee Lukasz Zal—the 37-year-old Polish cinematographer of Cold War—is prepping to shoot his first motion picture for the U.S., Charlie Kaufman’s I’m thinking of Ending Things starring Brie Larson and Jesse Plemons. Kaufman is writing and directing this adaptation of Iain Reid’s book for Netflix.

Caleb Deschanel, who received his sixth Oscar nomination for Germany’s Never Look Away, is the cinematographer on Jon Favreau’s anticipated The Lion King, which is slated to open July 19.

?https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/behind-screen/oscars-what-crafts-nominees-are-doing-next-1190490
 
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it was not a stellar year for movies. As with many areas of endeavour these days, accolades are not always handed out based on merit alone.
 

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I don't remember if I posted that link here previously; there are audiotapes with the real voices of the real Don Shirley and Tony Lip. I listened to most of them a while ago; they were online about a month or so ago. It sure is illuminating as the film depicts what they were saying in those tapes.
I recommend giving it a shot; it made me appreciating the film even more.

? https://deadline.com/2019/02/robert...y-tony-lip-confirm-film-storyline-1202558236/
 

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