New Wadax Atlantis Reference Dac

[Stereophonic]

Back picture with Akasa cable…

 

[thedudeabides]

You were answering Lagonda’s joke post, so your question was in the same way… I can be strange to you but i’m not a fool guy…

Sorry. I'm still confused. You quoted my post in your response. Whatever. This conversation is over.

 

[Stereophonic]

Absolutely stunning !!!

 

[plasmod3]

just my 2 cents here - it seems there are ppl for and ppl against the dac here . I assume given how esoteric this dac is - most have not had a chance to listen to it. What if the dealers here on the forum sent a dac to trusted members on the forum like Steve, Golum , Mike Lavigne to test out and for them to report back to everyone - I think that would be a very good exercise indeed. Else ppl will always have a skeptical eye that there are vested interests in the promotion of a gear here. And we dont want to run into a risk of having breakthrough gear discounted as well right?

I think less photos of AE will be useful, i don't think it will help the cause and can only polarise views even more here on the forum. It is a fantastic system don't get me wrong and i love every bit of it but then again ppl are starting to doubt your independence views from ae here stereophonic

 

[Stereophonic]

just my 2 cents here - it seems there are ppl for and ppl against the dac here . I assume given how esoteric this dac is - most have not had a chance to listen to it. What if the dealers here on the forum sent a dac to trusted members on the forum like Steve, Golum , Mike Lavigne to test out and for them to report back to everyone - I think that would be a very good exercise indeed. Else ppl will always have a skeptical eye that there are vested interests in the promotion of a gear here. And we dont want to run into a risk of having breakthrough gear discounted as well right?

I think less photos of AE will be useful, i don't think it will help the cause and can only polarise views even more here on the forum. It is a fantastic system don't get me wrong and i love every bit of it but then again ppl are starting to doubt your independence views from ae here stereophonic

Hi Plasmod3.
I understand your point of view and your idea falls on the roof of any dealer (5 in US now) or promotion interest here.
I can’t be independent.
I’m a Wadax costumer from 4 years ago, when Wadax was only present in AE.
I was playing with mainstream brands like Aurender, Esoteric, DCS, etc… so my Atlantis Server discovery was so revelatory that i saw very clearly my new line of new purchases. I sold my Esoteric D02X and purchased an Arcadia Wadax Dac. OMG the increase in SQ was so big that i purchased the Atlantis Dac inmediately.
I learned a lot with Javier (Wadax) knowledge and Chris (AE) experience and i’m still fascinated how these guys have developed a brand up to current level.
Maybe Wadax is a new brand to many people but it has being present until two years ago exclusively in AE during ten years.
So no interest by my side.
I’m only a proud owner that is fascinated about Wadax development and i’m tired of old mainstream technologies supported by same mainstream magazines.
I have a friend that has Reference Dac and Server. He lives only 50 kms from my home and i never will visit him to listen the system.
Why? Because i don’t like torture myself. If i would have the money i would buy them with my eyes closed. You would have to feel the same as me to understand my point of view.
I’ll continue posting AE pics because they are the best Wadax connoisseurs, i like their systems and i understand and learn with their fine tunning. From Revopods feets to best cables to get best sinergy with Wadax components….
If someone likes it, great, if doesn’t, who cares? Not me….
But, i can’t see people talking without respect about something they don’t know only because is new and different or directly with malicious intent….
Regards and sorry for my english, i’m from Spain not from HK…

 

[plasmod3]

sometimes too much can harm a product Chris, just saying. As audiophiles we naturally gravitate towards the exceptional products. A ferrari doesnt need selling for eg nor does Loro Piana vicuna. an independent view is always a good thing , it can also be well respected as well - avoiding the traps and pitfalls of he says she says and the like. That doesnt help the product or do it any justice at all. again just my 2 cents.

haha although i dont know how a chinese grandparent came up! Like Howie my grandparents are from China too.....having said that probably so did covid - but so what? Having something made in Europe doesnt naturally make it better. It's perceived better but not necessarily better.

 

[Lagonda]

sometimes too much can harm a product Chris, just saying. As audiophiles we naturally gravitate towards the exceptional products. A ferrari doesnt need selling for eg nor does Loro Piana vicuna. an independent view is always a good thing , it can also be well respected as well - avoiding the traps and pitfalls of he says she says and the like. That doesnt help the product or do it any justice at all. again just my 2 cents.

haha although i dont know how a chinese grandparent came up! Like Howie my grandparents are from China too.....having said that probably so did covid - but so what? Having something made in Europe doesnt naturally make it better. It's perceived better but not necessarily better.

And i am sorry, Spain does not have the reputation for precision engineering Germany or Switzerland has !

 

[howiebrou]

just my 2 cents here - it seems there are ppl for and ppl against the dac here . I assume given how esoteric this dac is - most have not had a chance to listen to it. What if the dealers here on the forum sent a dac to trusted members on the forum like Steve, Golum , Mike Lavigne to test out and for them to report back to everyone - I think that would be a very good exercise indeed. Else ppl will always have a skeptical eye that there are vested interests in the promotion of a gear here. And we dont want to run into a risk of having breakthrough gear discounted as well right?

I think less photos of AE will be useful, i don't think it will help the cause and can only polarise views even more here on the forum. It is a fantastic system don't get me wrong and i love every bit of it but then again ppl are starting to doubt your independence views from ae here stereophonic

It's a Good idea but I don't think Wadax is alone in getting criticism from those who have never seen or heard it. It's the nature of forums and social media, alas.

 

[howiebrou]

And i am sorry, Spain does not have the reputation for precision engineering Germany or Switzerland has !

At least they beat the US in water polo yesterday!

 

[SCAudiophile]

Nice debunking of "Debunker".

Thanks Al....appreciate that very much. My main intent was simply to throw a fully objective viewpoint on this great company
and gear in the ring as I've got no dog in this race as they say; don't own it and don't profit from it in any way

Those days I was able to hear the Atlantis stack and the Reference DAC made one hell of a lasting impression.

Also have a friend in the southeast US who owns the REF DAC and now the REF Streamer/Server. He's beyond happy...

 

[Debunker]

And i am sorry, Spain does not have the reputation for precision engineering Germany or Switzerland has !

Wadax made in Europe , may be in Spain ?
No matter where they made , quality control is the key point, I know there is one reference DAC is out of order too (few months ago).

 

[SCAudiophile]

Did what you mention ....checking now......The motherboard is Jimmy Computer from China.

I don't get the point of this....you'd be surprised how many chipsets and boards, sub-assemblies, for tech devices you use
everyday are manufactured in Mainland China, Taiwan, South Korea, Malaysia, Israel, etc....

Some facts....

Apple recently broke a 15 year partnership Intel US...doing all their own chips and leverages "5-nanometer plus" production
techniques in Taiwan. Intel's best is 7nm tech and many of their lines are 10nm and 14nm if memory serves.

Many still think Intel is purely US-made; Intel has assembly and testing facilities in China, Israel, Ireland, Malaysia, Vietnam,
and the United States of America. Only 75% percent of their entire semiconductor parts manufacturing occurs in the US itself.
All that is then sent overseas for assembly and testing plus that other 25% of semiconductor MFG is done outside the US.

Where that motherboard is made isn't terribly relevant; in high-end audio there are tons of manufacturing sourcing components,
sub-components, etc...from other suppliers and using them/adapting them for their purposes. The quality and capabilities of a
thing is the most important factor. All IMHO...

 

[Debunker]

Hi Debunker.
You should have started explaining your problem instead of posting confusing info… Server is yours?

I don't get the point of this....you'd be surprised how many chipsets and boards, sub-assemblies, for tech devices you use
everyday are manufactured in Mainland China, Taiwan, South Korea, Malaysia, Israel, etc....

Some facts....

Apple recently broke a 15 year partnership Intel US...doing all their own chips and leverages "5-nanometer plus" production
techniques in Taiwan. Intel's best is 7nm tech and many of their lines are 10nm and 14nm if memory serves.

Many still think Intel is purely US-made; Intel has assembly and testing facilities in China, Israel, Ireland, Malaysia, Vietnam,
and the United States of America. Only 75% percent of their entire semiconductor parts manufacturing occurs in the US itself.
All that is then sent overseas for assembly and testing plus that other 25% of semiconductor MFG is done outside the US.

Where that motherboard is made isn't terribly relevant; in high-end audio there are tons of manufacturing sourcing components,
sub-components, etc...from other suppliers and using them/adapting them for their purposes. The quality and capabilities of a
thing is the most important factor. All IMHO...

The point is : it is too easy and cheap to get this motherboard, why don't Wadax buy a good new one and fix the Atlantic server, they said they changed the motherboard.

 

[SCAudiophile]

The point is : it is too easy to get this motherboard, why don't Wadax buy a good new one and fix the Atlantic server.

Yes good point if the motherboard is faulty in that unit you are referring to...

Thanks for clarifying.

 

[Addicted to hifi]

Absolutely stunning !!!
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Stunning system.

 

[howiebrou]

Absolutely stunning !!!
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The Monaco tt looks so small amongst the other behemoths!

 

[Debunker]

He's just asking for a friend LMAO. Typical internet troll BS got snippets of some story second or third hand and embellish to make yourself the story. Who are you? No place no name no gear listed. You want to smear a companies reputation with your accusations and remain anonymous.
Welcome to the internet!

You are the dealer of Wadax, that's why you wrote this shit ! I write the truth !

 

[plasmod3]

Come on debunker, Elliot maybe a dealer but he's a nice chap let's not get too aggressive. I agree with a lot of comments but it's good to balance it all up

 

[plasmod3]

The Monaco tt looks so small amongst the other behemoths!

What does the calligraphy at the back mean Howie?

 

[Stereophonic]

You are the dealer of Wadax, that's why you wrote this shit ! I write the truth !

Talking about shit and truth…
You seem unintelligent in your attempt to falsify reality.
As i wrote before i have direct contact with Javier and Chris so lets begin:

Debunker being debunked part one:
I have talked with everybody who is involved in your history.
The client is real and he bought the server more than 5 years ago. It stopped working and was sent to Spain. Motherboard had a problem. Direct replacement. But after 5 years, the model of that generation (AS1, currently AS2), was not available in the market and Intel took an unusual time in a new one. Unit repaired was returned to the client working and the same problem was repeated. The client himself confirmed the origin of the problem, auser error due to an inadequate connection to the usb ports.
Despite this, the client was provided with another unit so that he could continue listening. And the customer paid
zero for all repair, more than 5 years after the
date of purchase.
Furthermore, it is the only Atlantis Server with hardware (remember, inadequate connection) “problems” in more than 200 units produced. And at the level of repairs, Wadax does not have to date no unit pending repair, of any model.
Client has authorized me to publish these messages…