Tesla Model Y performance

Levitator · Mar 24, 2024

Steve Williams said:
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id still like you to name one. You kept saying there are several Which makes and in what areas are they better. I’ve owned Porsche and Mercedes my entire life and loved them. However at gas prices in California of $6 per gallon we have never looked back. Finally I never lease. I only buy. I rarely sell my cars so if you can beat no car payments and no electricity payments I say go for it. For my wife and I, we couldn’t be happier. I still want to know which make and model is ahead of Tesla. Finally I’m not into racing but try putting your Porsche up against a Tesla from a standing start You’re going to lose. A neighbor here just took delivery of the Cyber truck trimotor The
Beast . It does 0-60 in 2.6 secs and probably weighs 3x what the Porsche weighs. I agree it is a learning experience but for us in SoCal we will never go back to ICE

Yes there are several that are better, in some areas. A car isn't just about 0-100 times and charging / range stats which is where the Tesla excels - and yes, I love these aspects probably like you do. Some will value these things more than other areas, and others won't. It's all personal and all I'm trying to offer is a balanced view on where the Tesla is good and not so good, from MY perspective. I've talked about where the Tesla has weaknesses from my experience - the other brand I've had the most exposure to so far is BMW having driven their EV’s a few times now and they are better in the areas I've pointed out above for Tesla listed as cons. Yes, the BMW costs more, but it is obvious why. Watch the recent EV car reviews/comparisons and you'll soon see which ones the reviewers are rating and how they compare with the Tesla.

Kenc · Mar 24, 2024

Buy a lightly used Tesla Y and see what you think of it over the next couple of years. Pricing is quite favourable these days. The Macan EV is due in Q4 this year (in Canada anyways). I would wait and consider a 2025 Macan EV when any potential glitches may have been worked out. I have had two Macan S's and just traded in my 2018 for a 2022 Mercedes A35 AMG hatchback (no longer available in NA) while I wait to see how the Macan EV pans out. From what I hear, they will be priced titch more than the gas Macan (which they are continuing to bring into Canada but not the US) and my "gut" feeling is that they will be superior to any Tesla in all respects. ..except for price.

Joe Whip · Mar 25, 2024

I have an S, 3 and a Y. As for the screen and lack of button, I love it. I set my profile which deals with things like the side mirrors, seat height etc. I get in the car and go. Use voice for things like the wipers. No unsafe at all. It is just different and you get used to it quickly. This is why having choices is a good thing.

Elliot G. · Mar 25, 2024

fbhifi said:
Have you considered a CPOd Macan? The one thing about current Macans that I find unacceptable is that they don’t come standard with Blind Spot Monitoring. At $70K+ it certainly should be standard equipment. I would not buy a vehicle without it.

I am still looking and have afew months. I think that this time it is going to have alot to do with the program available to get a new car. There are some good deals out ther now at 1.9 to 2.9 percent interest and that is a big factor for me.
We shall see whats out there in April and May,
Thanks,
E

Mike Lavigne · Mar 25, 2024

Elliot G. said:
I am still looking and have afew months. I think that this time it is going to have alot to do with the program available to get a new car. There are some good deals out ther now at 1.9 to 2.9 percent interest and that is a big factor for me.
We shall see whats out there in April and May,
Thanks,
E

glad i don't have to think about auto buying market trends any more. it use to occupy a good portion of my conscious thought. i read about it now, have a hard wired (after 50 years of habit) strong reaction, then realize.....i don't give a rip any more

got my new ICE rig in the garage, and no worries. i don't even have to think about all the chaos.

but with EV momentum sliding right now, in a few months there could be some very sweet lease deals out there. buyers are rightly very hesitant on EV's. all this production momentum going on, yet buyer hesitation in high gear. they cannot eat those units. OTOH Hybrids will be in demand. but keep the lease terms very short and keep your options open. plan on walking away at the end.

Steve Williams · Mar 25, 2024

Elliot G. said:
I am still looking and have afew months. I think that this time it is going to have alot to do with the program available to get a new car. There are some good deals out ther now at 1.9 to 2.9 percent interest and that is a big factor for me.
We shall see whats out there in April and May,
Thanks,
E

Have a look at the daily inventory of cars in your area. These are new cars that were preordered that the buyer didn’t close and list his deposit. The car goes into inventory. You can also find demo cars with a few hundred miles in them that are sold as used with good discounts

Steve Williams · Mar 25, 2024

Mike Lavigne said:
glad i don't have to think about auto buying market trends any more. it use to occupy a good portion of my conscious thought. i read about it now, have a hard wired (after 50 years of habit) strong reaction, then realize.....i don't give a rip any more .

but with EV momentum sliding right now, in a few months there could be some very sweet lease deals out there. all this production momentum going on, yet buyer hesitation in high gear. they cannot eat those units. OTOH Hybrids will be in demand. but keep the lease terms very short and keep your options open. plan on walking away at the end.

The EV momentum in SoCal increases daily. There are more model Y’s sold globally than the entire sales of the big 3 auto makers. It seems where I live there is always an EV in front or behind us. They are ubiquitous

Mike Lavigne · Mar 25, 2024

Steve Williams said:
The EV momentum in SoCal increases daily. There are more model Y’s sold globally than the entire sales of the big 3 auto makers. It seems where I live there is always an EV in front or behind us. They are ubiquitous

Orange County bubble living at it's finest. as if it's the real world.

enjoy it Steve.

Elliot G. · Mar 25, 2024

Steve Williams said:
The EV momentum in SoCal increases daily. There are more model Y’s sold globally than the entire sales of the big 3 auto makers. It seems where I live there is always an EV in front or behind us. They are ubiquitous

that maybe true in California and with Tesla however it is far from true Nationwide and with other auto makers . There are a lot of unhappy car dealers around the USA that are buried in EV's, particularly domestic ones.

Steve Williams · Mar 25, 2024

Mike Lavigne said:
Orange County bubble living at it's finest. as if it's the real world.

enjoy it Steve.

C’mon Mike. Really

I state a fact and your reply is somewhat silly and inappropriate. The reality is the unhappy dealers who can’t sell their EV’s is because of the giant on the block. You know it and I know it. Where I live and where you live are 2 different things. Show something other than a retort like that

Mike Lavigne · Mar 25, 2024

Steve Williams said:
C’mon Mike. Really

I state a fact and your reply is somewhat silly and inappropriate. The reality is the unhappy dealers who can’t sell their EV’s is because of the giant on the block. You know it and I know it. Where I live and where you live are 2 different things. Show something other than a retort like that

the facts are that the Biden admin just lowered all the long term EV market targets dramatically from just a year ago. and the Auto Industry is saying those are even not realistic. there is a big planning shift away from long term EV production and into Hybrid production.

why do you suppose that happened? and a year from now they will be lowered again. the market-place is saying no to full EV's.

you citing comparative Tesla sales figures to other EV sales figures is head in the sand talk. it's telling that only Tesla is selling among North American EV offerings. Tesla is selling as much because it's Tesla, and not so much because it's an EV.

Steve Williams · Mar 25, 2024

Mike. I’m referring to your comment about where I live. All the rest has been stated countlessly here I merely cited what works for me and my wife at this time in our lives and where we live. I was offering some help to Elliot. He too is looking to make his life easier.

Mike Lavigne · Mar 25, 2024

Steve Williams said:
Mike. I’m referring to your comment about where I live. All the rest has been stated countlessly here I merely cited what works for me and my wife at this time in our lives and where we live. I was offering some help to Elliot. He too is looking to make his life easier.

Steve, i mean no disrespect. but you are the one making the point of how great your solar works as a net gain for you, and also how Tesla's are all you see around you. i did not say those things.

that is your reality. but it's isolated. that's my point. you live in a great place, and around like minded folks. i'm happy for you. but projecting that to a national scale is not realistic.

Joe Whip · Mar 25, 2024

Well, we have a place in Naples Florida. Every day I see more and more Teslas. My primary residence in the Philly area. Same thing there, plus Rivians, Mach Es, Polestars and others. I guess two other bubbles.

Elliot G. · Mar 25, 2024

Gentlemen if you do some homework on total car sales in the EV arena you will see that many are doing very poorly. Ford, GM , Stallantis, BMW, MB . Porsche are changing direction. MY Porsche dealer will give me a stupid deal just to move a Taycan but no matter how stupid its still way to much money for me and they have loads of them. Hard to find any gas cars other than SUV entry level. They are a huge dealer. Ford is loosing its ass as well as the other big manufacturers. I'd be happy to post stats but its easy to find. I don't doubt that in some markets there are a lot of EV's. We have many here in Boca as the Tesla is a status and vanity purchase especially in wealthy communities. Here where there is no bad weather and a decent amount of charging stations. This is not true however all over the USA. Please don't take offense Tesla guys but you need to deep dive to all the others that are not selling .

Mike Lavigne · Mar 25, 2024

one other thing. even though i'm retired, i'm still in touch with a group of auto dealers around the country in 20+ states that have Honda and multiple other brands, and they are all experiencing very low EV customer demand. customers have interest, but are not buying. TOO MUCH MONEY! inventory is sitting. obviously none sell new Tesla's.

the manufacturers have required typically $500k+ infrastructure investments to handle EV's for each rooftop. larger stalls, large forklifts to move battery packs, multiple charging stations, training, etc, etc. yet zero sales and profits so far. so lots of added stress on the dealers.

that's the pointy end of the spear and the reality of what is going on.

Elliot G. · Mar 25, 2024

here is one example of EV issue

Joe Whip · Mar 25, 2024

I wouldn’t buy a Ford or GM EV either. Rivian, yes, Hyundai yes.

Steve Williams · Mar 25, 2024

Elliot G. said:
here is one example of EV issue

It costs Ford $38K to sell a $35K EV

Steve Williams · Mar 25, 2024

Here’s a YouTube video that shows what you can do. The fact that yesterday someone posted how dangerous it is to keep looking at the screen. I say that this person doesn’t know the clues of voice commands. There is no need to look at the screen

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