If the noise floor is low enough and the watts are good musical watts there is no limit imo.
More power is better , although there is a case to be made " enough is enough " off course
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If the noise floor is low enough and the watts are good musical watts there is no limit imo.
More power is better , although there is a case to be made " enough is enough " off course
Might it be, Brad, that the Tidal loudspeakers with their diamond tweeters and high built quality are so utterly revealing / honest that they (only) demonstrate what is actually going on in the system (and we all know that the conditions in Munich are pretty bad)? That is under controlled circumstances - for example at a dealer’s place or at an audiophile’s home with good power conditions, good mechanical isolation and top notch grounding - these ‘honest’ transducers will shine more than other (if you wish: more colored) loudspeakers?
Mayer explains it well
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You might very well be right. Choice of electronics and power quality becomes then paramount lest one gets a less than optimal result. I could very well appreciate what it did right…I sat in there quite a bit longer than in most rooms because I heard a lot that was right.
Kondo G-1000 and Kondo Kagura se amps as well as Kondo Gakuoh mk i pp amps. May I please refer you to the Tidal La Assoluta thread on WBF?
Ah, well that will go a long way to address what I was hearing that made it feel chilly. Very nice amps!
I first heard Gakuoh mkI at Bkack Forrest Audio 20 years ago and loved the Kondo sound ever since.
Thank you. And due to the high sensitivity / easy load (no drops below 4 ohms) the Kondo amps are a good match with my Tidal LA’s.
Always loved the purity casu quo non mechanicalness of the Kondo amplification.
But - of course - much more is going on in my Tidal La Assoluta set up. Top notch Tripoint audio grounding is imho key to reach ‘audio nirvana’.
A little more from the designer about the prototype turntable featured this year .
Here is one , the other ones seems to be located within those long videos, I can t seem to locate them now
David, there is nothing inherently wrong with chamber music. But when we are at audio shows with $1M systems we want to be wow'd, entertained, etc. This is a big reason why we attend! Exhibitors are playing safe, no balls music instead. A trio doesn't remotely show us the sonic capacity of these mega systems. Just bring a pair of monitors if you don't want to go all out and show us state of the art sound reproduction. This is Munich, not a small DIY show at a grungy hotel.
Everyone I know who goes says the same thing about the music. OCD Mikey called it out in that wrap up video. "suicide music for anorexic people" lol.
Meanwhile at Axpona, there were 50+ people with no standing room left at the big Focal/Naim system on *Sunday afternoon* listening to Ghost Rider (not even a track I like but still).
Music and the gear upon which it is produced is wholly subjective. Everyone has different tastes, and yes, if someone, an audiophile, wants to spend USD 1M + on a system to hear chamber music so be it. Exhibitors at shows should play a wide range of music for this very reason.
Exhibitors choose to play particular music to demonstrate systems and put them in the best (sic) light is their decision, rightfully or wrongfully. They could ask for requests from the attendees, but we know all too well that the "wisdom of the audiophile crowd" has its limits.
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So now OCD Mikey is your reference for musical taste?? Uh ok …
I think chamber music is a great reference to judge an audio system. Real acoustic instruments played by great musicians — the opposite of of the brain dead, processed Protools studio stuff that I hear on many show videos.
If a system can deliver on a dynamic Shostakovich quartet, that says something.
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Please excuse me, I didn't follow your previous discussions well, sorry:
- which $million system dared to play chamber music? Congrats! Reproducing 4 bowed string instruments, of which 2 violins: OMG, good luck with that. The manufacturer who dared to do it had balls, definitely. Years ago on a show, I told Bruno Putzeys who was DJ-ing with the Grimm LS1 that he had co-developped: "congrat, you are the only one who dares to play classical music" He replied: "yeah, because that I know it's the most difficult one to reproduce".
It is just a matter of proportion, I think: not too much classical, not only electro & pop & EDM.
Shouldn't there be a proportion (even a minority, but significant) of acoustic instruments, among which those which are the most difficult to reproduce ? (e.a., chamber music; maybe partly because in this case, the recording has a magnifying glass effect on the nasties, where those can maybe go rather unnoticed in a more global orchestral recording).
In other terms: let's not verge towards a huge proportion of EDM, electro and pop (that I can like too), as it seemed to be the sad trend.
And excluding chamber music from an ambitious hifi show raises questions over the what for? (regarding both the gear and the show itself).
Please excuse me, I didn't follow your previous discussions well, sorry:
- which $million system dared to play chamber music? Congrats! Reproducing 4 bowed string instruments, of which 2 violins: OMG, good luck with that. The manufacturer who dared to do it had balls, definitely. Years ago on a show, I told Bruno Putzeys who was DJ-ing with the Grimm LS1 that he had co-developped: "congrat, you are the only one who dares to play classical music" He replied: "yeah, because that I know it's the most difficult one to reproduce".
It is just a matter of proportion, I think: not too much classical, not only electro & pop & EDM.
Shouldn't there be a proportion (even a minority, but significant) of acoustic instruments, among which those which are the most difficult to reproduce ? (e.a., chamber music; maybe partly because in this case, the recording has a magnifying glass effect on the nasties, where those can maybe go rather unnoticed in a more global orchestral recording).
In other terms: let's not verge towards a huge proportion of EDM, electro and pop (that I can like too), as it seemed to be the sad trend.
And excluding chamber music from an ambitious hifi show raises questions over the what for? (regarding both the gear and the show itself).
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indeed, and for that very same reason, even through my headphones (!!), I am intrigued by this:
Slap some drivers on that stack and you will have a speaker with high WAF !
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