Shunyata Grounding System
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"All good things come to those who wait." From the poem, Tout vient a qui sait attendre, Lady Montgomery
My Alpha grounding cables all 6 now connected to chassis grounds on my components and into Altaira CG and Everest 8000 with Omega XC power cable. Sound comes out of nowhere. If you can get your room quiet enough, the background silence is amazing and dynamic range is exceptional. Can almost scare you sometimes with dynamics on great hi-res recordings. Vocals and resolution are definitely improved with the Altaira.
I am not sure if the Omega grounds are worth it for my system. Maybe if the new Sigma X grounding cables show up as a new improved line in a few months, I might try just one short custom one for the main #7 cable to the Everest, but I think my Altaira setup is fine at this point.
For now, my question is should I get Omega XLR's to replace my Sigma XLR's or wait and get Sigma X pair later this summer.
I am not sure if the Omega grounds are worth it for my system. Maybe if the new Sigma X grounding cables show up as a new improved line in a few months, I might try just one short custom one for the main #7 cable to the Everest, but I think my Altaira setup is fine at this point.
For now, my question is should I get Omega XLR's to replace my Sigma XLR's or wait and get Sigma X pair later this summer.
I have an ASUS router that sends the signal into a Shunyata Omega ethernet cable into my Aurender N20. The Aurender has a chassis ground and I have that connected with an Alpha ground cable to the Altaira and into the Everest.
Has anyone run a separate ground cable from the Altaira to the router via an ethernet tail adapter? Is there any significant sound benefit of grounding the router separately?
My router is plugged into a different circuit than the Everest, as I have used all 8 outlets for my main components. Would it be better to add a couple extra outlets to the Everest some way so the router can be on the same circuit instead of a separate ground cable?
Has anyone run a separate ground cable from the Altaira to the router via an ethernet tail adapter? Is there any significant sound benefit of grounding the router separately?
My router is plugged into a different circuit than the Everest, as I have used all 8 outlets for my main components. Would it be better to add a couple extra outlets to the Everest some way so the router can be on the same circuit instead of a separate ground cable?
Yup! Exactly my experience with Everest and Altaira as well.
I've standardized on Alpha CGCs for all the components' connections to Altaira, and then use use a Omega CGCs to connect each Altaira at it's "7th Terminal" to the GP-NR terminals of Everest. This seems to be a well-balanced and "pragmatic" implementation.
i'd wait for Sigma-X.
Yes, and yes.
No, you can't add extra outlets to an Everest. Just get a 4-outlet Shunyata Gemini and use that for powering your router. You can also make ground cable connections from those devices (e.g. your router, etc) to the Altaira-type CG ground-plane noise reduction terminals on Gemini. I use a Gemini in my remote server room for powering my router, my Akasa NUC Roon Core, and EtherREGEN and it's AfterDark master clock, as shown.
You can see ground cables here from ER and my router. Gemini will accomodate up to 8 ground cable connections to provide Altaira-CG type GP-NR. I just bought an RJ45 Ethernet "tail" for the router and snapped it onto the male banana end of a Venom ground cable. ER connects at it's screw terminal with a spade connector on the ground cable.
One could depending on your system layout utilize an audio grade power strip plugged into one position on the Everest. I know this won’t work for everybody as some folks have only major signal components connected. I have two Denali V2 (one at the front end, and one on an adjacent wall on the backend of my kit) to accommodate power/speed controls for two turntables and four power supplies for my field-coils as well as signal components. At the front of my system, I use an audio grade power strip to plug-in all the non signal component power supplies. It performs exceptionally well. Could this be a possibility for you?Yes, and yes.
No, you can't add extra outlets to an Everest. Just get a 4-outlet Shunyata Gemini and use that for powering your router. You can also make ground cable connections from those devices (e.g. your router, etc) to the Altaira-type CG ground-plane noise reduction terminals on Gemini. I use a Gemini in my remote server room for powering my router, my Akasa NUC Roon Core, and EtherREGEN and it's AfterDark master clock, as shown.
You can see ground cables here from ER and my router. Gemini will accomodate up to 8 ground cable connections to provide Altaira-CG type GP-NR. I just bought an RJ45 Ethernet "tail" for the router and snapped it onto the male banana end of a Venom ground cable. ER connects at it's screw terminal with a spade connector on the ground cable.
Yes, your implementation of using 2 Denali is pragmatic and practical. Regarding an "audio grade powerstrip", not sure which ones you're using as it's not specified, but like most things in audio, the answer is...it depends. A number of companies, e.g. Audioquest, use chokes and coils for reduction of noise, and these are the worst type of devices to use in a power distributor because they limit DTCD. My suggestion would add another Shunyata power distributor for outlefts for additonal componentry as ths won't limit DTCD. But this should be plugged directly into the wall receptable, just as Everest. Even the "entry-level" Shunyata PS10, which sells for $900 might be a good PD for this application. BTW, I use as PS10 for my HT set-up and it works great. Also provides more contrast, deeper blacks, and more saturated colors for HDTV video quality as well. Another great place to use a PS10 is in the "remote server room", but a Gemini is even better as it has 4 CG GP-NR termials, which you can use to "ground" your router, music server, ER, FMC, etc. Cheers.
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* you can always spend more money.
Did I hear a difference in sound quality when I had the power supplies directly plugged into the Denali V2?
I did not. I’ll spend the extra 3–6K on vinyl.
yeah, I’m running power supplies/speed controllers > (old) PS Audio Juice Bar > Venom NR12 > Denali V2. This “power-strip” has NO chokes, filters, or active circuits. It simply has three PS Audio duplexes star terminated into an IEC with heavy gage copper. It offers a very reasonable connection and more than ample current flow for the small power supplies. No fairy dust. Happy happy
* you can always spend more money.
Did I hear a difference in sound quality when I had the power supplies directly plugged into the Denali V2?
I did not. I’ll spend the extra 3–6K on vinyl.
Shunyata noise reduction power cords do already have internal frequency cap type filters to reduce RFI or EMI noise, so using power strps that also have chokes or filters, would be restricting current flow significantly.
These Omega Grounding cables are really special and for what they deliver a steal in the crazy money world of audiophilia.
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When you have two Altairas, how should the connection to Everest be:
1.- In Parallel, that is from each ground connection pole of the Altaira to a pole of Everest
2.- In Series, from the ground connection pole of one Altaira to the grounding pole of the other Altaira and from this pole to an Everest pole.
1.- In Parallel, that is from each ground connection pole of the Altaira to a pole of Everest
2.- In Series, from the ground connection pole of one Altaira to the grounding pole of the other Altaira and from this pole to an Everest pole.
Hi there,
I have my two connected each directly to a separate of the four Everest grounding posts. Think that’s called a „star“ configuration. My feeling is that in this way the two Altairas (eg one for analog, one for digital) are better separated than when the units are daisy chained.
But who knows, give both configurations a try and let your ears decide.
Probably the common ground connection (which is the Everest in this setup) is most important.
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