2019 Corvette C7 Stingray Convertible

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I love the mid-engine design. I'm not sure I am keen on the rear engine (911) design.
 

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I love the mid-engine design. I'm not sure I am keen on the rear engine (911) design.

I agree about the superbeetles... :) I've driven a few but not recently, I wasn't expecting that much but the GT3 was special. I didn't even have to drive it myself to notice, the car is in another league vs most, and it should be for around $200k. I admire what Porsche has accomplished with these cars.
 
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Tinka's C7 3LT Convertible is so much fun, and is such a good sports car in an absolute sense (at least for a casual car enthusiast like me), it's ridiculous.

For my whole life I always -- always! -- assumed that if I were in a Corvette and a Ferrari or a McLaren or a Porsche pulled up next to me on the street to turn up his/her nose at a "lowly" Corvette that I would be kinda quietly embarrassed. I do not feel that way in this car (and I would feel even less so in a C7 Z06). I would think: "Ha! I am having 80% of the fun you are having with 0% of the breakdown worry!"*

*To be fair I cannot quantify the extent to which it helps that I actually do have a (older) Ferrari.
 

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Question for WBF C7 Stingray experts:

With the same exact engine horsepower as my SL550, but with a 700 pound lighter weight advantage for the C7, the C7 doesn't pull from, say, 5,000 RPM in 2nd gear (with the automatic transmission set in manual mode and the system set to Track mode) as hard as I would expect it to. The SL pulls harder (seemingly to me) in that situation.

What is going on there? Is the C7 power response being choked by emission controls or catalytic converters or mufflers?

Does the SL seemingly pull harder because of its twin turbos?

PS: The C7 feels noticeably lighter on its feet than does the SL550. (The SL, even with the aluminum body (which shaved only about 150 pounds off the weight of the prior SL) has always been a pig which weighs a lot more than it should.)
 

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Question for WBF C7 Stingray experts:

With the same exact engine horsepower as my SL550, but with a 700 pound lighter weight advantage for the C7, the C7 doesn't pull from, say, 5,000 RPM in 2nd gear (with the automatic transmission set in manual mode and the system set to Track mode) as hard as I would expect it to. The SL pulls harder (seemingly to me) in that situation.

What is going on there? Is the C7 power response being choked by emission controls or catalytic converters or mufflers?

Does the SL seemingly pull harder because of its twin turbos?

PS: The C7 feels noticeably lighter on its feet than does the SL550. (The SL, even with the aluminum body (which shaved only about 150 pounds off the weight of the prior SL) has always been a pig which weighs a lot more than it should.)


I have the same motor in my Camaro... I agree the LT1 isn't quite as exciting as many other motors as far as power delivery. It's intended to be more linear, which makes it excellent for track use as you know what you're getting from throttle inputs. But it does not have that surge of power you get from turbos or a motor with a really big cam. You will get more power in either competitive driving mode, PTM mode, or on track mode with all the nannies off. But DON'T turn the nannies off until you have some real experience with the car, it's very dangerous if you're not very careful.

Today's cats and mufflers don't make much of a difference. You could remove it all and end up with only slight gains in power.

The one downside of these cars is they are almost too competent and they don't feel as fast as they are when driving them on the street. It makes them really comfortable on the highway, and your Vette will probably achieve 30 mpg as well. But, the experience isn't quite as exciting as some other cars, mostly cars of far less ultimate capability. Vettes are very fast cars on a track, and feel a lot more exciting when driven at that level.

I think you'd appreciate the car a lot more if you did a track driving event, you'd get some instruction then go out with an instructor in your car who will guide you through how to drive on track in a low-pressure, controlled setting. On track, these cars really transform into something else and I think you'll come away liking the car even more.

Finally, Germans under-report power by around 10-15% so you have to keep that in mind as well.
 
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That is all very interesting, Dave!

Thank you!

I appreciate the track suggestion, but while I love sports cars, I do not consider it a hobby. We will not be disabling traction control, ever!
 
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Ron, congrats on the new acquisition ! IMO, having owned 6 Corvettes over the past 44 plus years they have all been great. Granted interior wise they have taken a 'beating' until recently, but as I told the young lad you asked me if my Corvette could keep up with his modern 911 I said no.......but then told him to come back with his grandfather and his '67 911 and I'd show him what Chevy taillights look like !
 

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Tinka thinks that car is "gorgeous."

What is the most recent Corvette you have?
 

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Congratulations!!!
 

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