American Sound AS-2000 Installations- Far East (Tango)

[spiritofmusic]

Bill, it's a game not all of us are compelled to play.

 

[ddk]

Guys - I am not following why one needs or wishes for so many permutations of arms / carts or even just carts assuming same arm 4 times?

I can understand this “game” might be fun but I would find it rather distracting - I guess each to their own.

Imagine 1 favorite dish for every meal, everyday; vs 4 favorites dishes and possibility of having and trying many more along with sides and various desserts. There's a lot in high end audio to discover and enjoy, both for music and sound you can do that here at will.

david

 

[spiritofmusic]

We one arm/one cart guys are slumming it on Big Macs three times a day

 

[NorthStar]

It's like being a master in the art of turntable versatility instead of being a slave of constricted limitation.

 

[Audiophile Bill]

Imagine 1 favorite dish for every meal, everyday; vs 4 favorites dishes and possibility of having and trying many more along with sides and various desserts. There's a lot in high end audio to discover and enjoy, both for music and sound you can do that here at will.

david

Hi David,

For me the “dishes” are the music itself - as in my collection of LPs.

Anyway - each to their own. Enjoy.

 

[microstrip]

Bill, it's a game not all of us are compelled to play.

Surely. But in this particular thread we should try to understand why people want to play it and mostly, enjoy and learn from their experience.

Party poopers will not be welcome!

 

[spiritofmusic]

Sure Francisco, I guess if you plonked an AS in front of me w four arms, and any number of carts, I guess I'd be marginally tempted to keep the lot LOL.

I was enough of a bore in the 80s berating people for dumping vinyl, I'm not going to start telling analogheads to restrict their enjoyment.

 

[jeff1225]

If you have the SME 3012R, or other arms with the bayonet attachment, you can play the game with cartridges. It's a lot cheaper.

 

[rockitman]

Guys - I am not following why one needs or wishes for so many permutations of arms / carts or even just carts assuming same arm 4 times?

I can understand this “game” might be fun but I would find it rather distracting - I guess each to their own.

I used to think that way. Once you realize how simple and fast cart changes can be with bayonet, the ability to use classic vintage carts and SPU's... it becomes addicting. Doing the same on fixed arms is not so easy pulling wire pins, switching out the cart from the head shell, ect and going through a more complicated and time consuming alignment process.

 

[microstrip]

I used to think that way. Once you realize how simple and fast cart changes can be with bayonet, the ability to use classic vintage carts and SPU's... it becomes addicting. Doing the same on fixed arms is not so easy pulling wire pins, switching out the cart from the head shell, ect and going through a more complicated and time consuming alignment process.

Are you using slotted headshells to avoid adjusting the tonearm pivot to turntable bearing distance every time you change the cartridge?

 

[ddk]

Hi David,

For me the “dishes” are the music itself - as in my collection of LPs.

Anyway - each to their own. Enjoy.

Then look at it as having those meals cooked by a number of the international gourmet chefs, current and old, on demand. But like you said, no one's pushing anything on anyone.

david

 

[ddk]

Are you using slotted headshells to avoid adjusting the tonearm pivot to turntable bearing distance every time you change the cartridge?

He's mostly using the fixed SME headshells, setting up alignment with the gauges I make is very fast and convenient.

david

 

[jeff1225]

Are you using slotted headshells to avoid adjusting the tonearm pivot to turntable bearing distance every time you change the cartridge?

Most of my headshells are the SME (they sound great) so I adjust the sliding base of the tone arm each time. With the DB Protractor recommended by DDK it only takes 1 minute.

 

[ddk]

Most of my headshells are the SME (they sound great) so I adjust the sliding base of the tone arm each time. With the DB Protractor recommended by DDK it only takes 1 minute.

Personally I find moving the base a lot easier for setup than the cartridge in a headshell and really miss that option setting up non SME tonearms.

david

 

[microstrip]

He's mostly using the fixed SME headshells, setting up alignment with the gauges I make is very fast and convenient.

david

I am not understanding you - SME headshells have fixed holes, what is the point of using the gauges?

 

[microstrip]

Personally I find moving the base a lot easier for setup than the cartridge in a headshell and really miss that option setting up non SME tonearms.

david

I agree with this point - it becomes as simple as setting a linear tonearm!

 

[ddk]

I agree with this point - it becomes as simple as setting a linear tonearm!

Without the smiling Imoji I’m still guessing your post is tongue in cheek. The gauge eliminates using the cartridge for alignment and with straight side edges it can be done very quickly using the DB Protractor or equivalent.

david

 

[dminches]

Most of my headshells are the SME (they sound great) so I adjust the sliding base of the tone arm each time. With the DB Protractor recommended by DDK it only takes 1 minute.

1 minute?

If you use a slotted head shell you don't have to make any adjustments once it is set. How is that not easier?

 

[microstrip]

Without the smiling Imoji I’m still guessing your post is tongue in cheek. The gauge eliminates using the cartridge for alignment and with straight side edges it can be done very quickly using the DB Protractor or equivalent.

david

Yes, there was an implicit smile - I have been using the Forsell for many years. Just 120 seconds to change the cartridge - unless the cartridge pins were not standard and the pins needed some adjustment!

 

[microstrip]

1 minute?

If you use a slotted head shell you don't have to make any adjustments once it is set. How is that not easier?

It is why I asked. But then you are not using exactly the standard SME geometry.