American Sound AS-2000 Installations- Far East (Tango)
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Oh, that's good to know. I can sleep at night.
But the tears you leave in your wake, the emotional energy expended. Man, that takes sheer will.
But the tears you leave in your wake, the emotional energy expended. Man, that takes sheer will.
This is why I dropped my all-tube ideology and selected a hybrid line stage. (Of course this wheel was a bit greased because: 1) I had to find a non-tube output solution to drive 55’ of interconnects, 2) I am very comfortable with VTL sound, 3) all else being equal I really do think there is some merit in matching a line stage with a power amplifier from the same company, 4) Marty loves the TL-7.5 Series III, 5) I heard it in a couple of systems and believed I liked it, and 6) this particular line stage was one of the two survivors of a friend’s multi-month line stage shoot-out including top ARC, Constellation and Doshi line stages.)
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Hybrids can sometimes be the worst of both world's, rather than the best of both. The first Ypsilon Aelius is a good example
Sneak peek.
Tang
Hilary Hahn on Ayon sounds anemic compared to Leonid Kogan, van Halen, Joe Satriani and Steve Vai playing Bach together on the Lamm
The name's conn. Chaconne
Mike, how power hungry are your speakers? And impedance curve? SETs can sound very different depending on the load and demand for more current. Just a thought. I have read many reviews of the ML3s while I built the Lamm website, and some of the magazine write ups at CES were not so positive. It seemed to be around the speakers they uses. Wilson's seemed to work, the Kharma's less so. Thoughts?
my MM7 speaker's published specs are 97db, 7 ohm nominal, and there is powered bass below 40hz.
when i heard the ML3's on the Wilson Maxx's at CES (not sure which year), that was the 'darkest' i ever heard them (and the bass was quite flabby, but the sound was still magical). at ddk's i perceived them as slightly dark (less dark than in my own system, but his system was not at all familiar to me), and at Steve's the ML3's were a good deal less 'dark' sounding than on the Maxx's, but more dark sounding than what i perceived at my home on my speakers. my room is much larger and lively sounding than Steve's so debatable what is causing what.
but comparing a couple hours time at ddk's or Steve's to me living with them in my own system for 3 months it's hard to draw conclusions. just data points for whatever that is worth.
ML3's are my favorite tube amplifier i've heard when operating in it's design envelope. amazing sound. they left a permanent strong positive impression. not perfect at everything.
You never wrote about your impressions before
Just put a pointer to your lamm thread. In fact, save it, because you will be asked again
Steve Williams
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You never wrote about your impressions before
Just put a pointer to your lamm thread. In fact, save it, because you will be asked again
In fact Mike has been asked many times.I bet he is tired of repeating himself
In fact Mike has been asked many times.I bet he is tired of repeating himself
Steve I was being sarcastic
Steve Williams
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Ked
I guess it was over my head and missed your humor. Nonetheless Mike has been asked and answered the same question countless times
Steve Williams
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For me and these ML3 amps, the reality is they indeed perform better with different speakers and different size rooms. Once one finds that synergy IMO the amps will become keepers in one's system.They certainly have in mine and David's systems. With Tang's new speakers I believe once his amps are burned in he will be very happy with his sonic impressions
You never wrote about your impressions before
Just put a pointer to your lamm thread. In fact, save it, because you will be asked again
it's ok, i like thinking about my time with the ML3's.
Proper speaker system, amp and room matching is critical to building a great playback. I'd love to have the Lamm SET amp on my 96 DB speakers, but I'm not convinced that they can control the dual 15" woofers.
I've personally never liked the Lamm presentations in the large room at CES with the big Kharmas and the ML3. The smaller room with M1.2 on smaller Kharmas was always much more convincing to me.
I've personally never liked the Lamm presentations in the large room at CES with the big Kharmas and the ML3. The smaller room with M1.2 on smaller Kharmas was always much more convincing to me.
Yes, that is pretty much what Stereophile said at CES in 2016 I think it was. Maybe the big Kharmas are too hungry.
Some run subs with Class D amps, or even SS Class A/B. Might be better? On big speakers multiway with 15 inch drivers, could be an issue. Even if they are high efficiency doesn't hide the control / damping subject. Big drivers have more interactions with the load I would say.
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I am betting that not only would they control the drivers but so also would sound darn good.
My speakers are 95 dB efficient and each speaker has a 13" woofer and a 15" subwoofer and there is just no problem
I never heard your system with the ML2.1's. Your system with the ML3's is absolutely fabulous I thought the bass was as tight and tuneful as I've heard. It would be interesting to hear the ML2 series on my speakers, hopefully I'll have the opportunity to do so one day.
Steve Williams
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I used the ML 2.1's for about 5 years before I switched to the ML3's. At 18 wpc I only heard my amps clip on two separate occasions during that time
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