American Sound AS-2000 Installations- Far East (Tango)

[bonzo75]

Tang, the new owner, does indeed have an EMT927 in his armoury.

David does too so he can just play the same record on the EMT to demonstrate

 

[christoph]

Here is the one:
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Auditorium 23 presented it I believe.

I love the look
I hope they sounded accordingly

 

[christoph]

Wow. It's almost worth flying to Utah before they depart to experience it.

You mean a proper before (at ddk's) and after (at Tang's) compare?
That would be the real deal
Don't give Ked any ideas now that he is on a roll anyways

 

[PeterA]

Wow. It's almost worth flying to Utah before they depart to experience it.

it is always worth flying to Utah, just to see what David has cooking.

 

[dan31]

I want the TAD speakers he has at his place. I need to get my Zen working…

 

[PeterA]

Its good to hear an ordinary recording on this system, and that leads me to make some comments on the sound, which don't fit to match those speakers.

I don't think that the turntable matches the speakers. That is for one reason, this turntable is made completely from massive steel, it seems.
And that defines its fundamental sound characteristic. Its sounds dead to me, because there is a dead material used for its base.

This is a very interesting comment. I own one of these turntables. I sent a friend of mine, and former member of this forum, a photograph of my new turntable. His first comment was that the turntable must ring like a bell.

I find it curious that two people can have such opposing opinions without actually having heard the turntable. I can assure you that the turntable does not ring like a bell, nor does it sound dead.

 

[tima]

I want the TAD speakers he has at his place. I need to get my Zen working…

The 2401s?

 

[dan31]

Yes sir, those would be the cat’s pajamas. They don’t make them like that anymore.

 

[tima]

Yes sir, those would be the cat’s pajamas. They don’t make them like that anymore.

Yes, I heard them with Lamm electronics and thought them wonderful. They are a bit too big for my room. Delightful to look at as well. The 2402s have a single woofer and easier size.

Edit: https://www.whatsbestforum.com/thre...tural-sound-in-utah.32411/page-12#post-795739

 

[Walter66]

This is a very interesting comment. I own one of these turntables. I sent a friend of mine, and former member of this forum, a photograph of my new turntable. His first comment was that the turntable must ring like a bell.

I find it curious that two people can have such opposing opinions without actually having heard the turntable. I can assure you that the turntable does not ring like a bell, nor does it sound dead.

I've never wrote that it sounds Like a bell, why should it? But it sounds dead to me on this vid and thats not a fiction but a fact that could be auditioned compared to other turntables. If you don't think so, well, this is a different Story. Just listen to a NPV or Shindo 301 compared and you may understand whats meant.

 

[jespera]

Wow jdza - epic system. King Kong Ding Dong - best Eleanor so far even though I detest that record with a passion haha. Any chance of more vids of your system - really impressive.

I agree the big horns give the best impression. fwiw.

But I struggle with the noises.

The singer is a pupertarian. And the recording sounds 24 bit artificial.

I had to reach for some strong vinyl for the lenco to get some warmth in me.

 

[Audiophile Bill]

Hi Tang,

I took your advice and bought one of the cables above. I bought the Gotham ones with amphenol plugs. Anyway great improvement across the board - absolutely deadly silent (very noticeable) and very balanced top to bottom. Pair cost me £44 for 1.5m

cheers

 

[Solypsa]

+10

Maybe a high dollar cable will do something you like, but if the system can't sound good with Gotham something else is a problem

 

[Walter66]

High efficiency audio systems often needs different cables and react differently to ordinary audio cables. So the rules of thump that can be applied to ordinary systems sometimes won't work with those special systems. Accept to be astonished sometimes when normal things won't work. Its like a good chef in the kitchen. With a variety of basic ingredients he has to customize the menu for perfect taste and he wil always be successfull in the end. Its all about knowledge and experience what works and what wouldn't work in those situations.

 

[Tango]

Hi Tang,

I took your advice and bought one of the cables above. I bought the Gotham ones with amphenol plugs. Anyway great improvement across the board - absolutely deadly silent (very noticeable) and very balanced top to bottom. Pair cost me £44 for 1.5m

cheers

Dear Bill,
That was quick. I only told you for a day.
You may find Gotham tone in piano bother you at first. But after burned in, it will turn to normal. I tried many studio cables. They took me quite a while to understand charater of each. Agony period of listening due to burn in. Another person that played around with studio cables quite a bit is @bazelio. Heknows what is what but does not seem to tell people.

 

[pcosta]

Hi Tang,

I took your advice and bought one of the cables above. I bought the Gotham ones with amphenol plugs. Anyway great improvement across the board - absolutely deadly silent (very noticeable) and very balanced top to bottom. Pair cost me £44 for 1.5m

cheers

Can you provide a link to the Gotham cable please

 

[Tango]

+10

Maybe a high dollar cable will do something you like, but if the system can't sound good with Gotham something else is a problem

They are higher dollar because they "add" a lot more to your sound I guess. But adding more also increase higher degree of homogeneity. Everything will sound "impressive". "Up" your system as my friends would say. Records you hear will sound a lot less different. Only when you add less you will beable to distinguish the good records from actually mediocre ones. The studio cables do add less than high dollar ones.

 

[Audiophile Bill]

Dear Bill,
That was quick. I only told you for a day.
You may find Gotham tone in piano bother you at first. But after burned in, it will turn to normal. I tried many studio cables. They took me quite a while to understand charater of each. Agony period of listening due to burn in. Another person that played around with studio cables quite a bit is @bazelio. Heknows what is what but does not seem to tell people.

It was so cheap I couldn’t resist. What are the preferred pro speaker cables? Mogami or something?

 

[Audiophile Bill]

Can you provide a link to the Gotham cable please

Here is a link on Amazon. Here are the Gotham gac4 star quad with Amphenol. The same seller does other rca plugs if you wish. There are also other Gotham cables - there is one super low capacitance one, which on paper would make a lot of sense for phono applications. I can definitely say, without reservation, that it is the quietest cable I ever heard. It has double screen and star quad and is pro microphone cable so unsurprising really.

3 Meter RCA Cable Pair - Gotham GAC-4/1 (Black) Star-Quad Balanced Audio Interconnect Cable with Amphenol ACPR Die-Cast, Gold Plated RCA Connectors - Directional : Amazon.co.uk: Electronics & Photo

3 Meter RCA Cable Pair - Gotham GAC-4/1 (Black) Star-Quad Balanced Audio Interconnect Cable with Amphenol ACPR Die-Cast, Gold Plated RCA Connectors - Directional : Amazon.co.uk: Electronics & Photo

www.amazon.co.uk

 

[Petrat]

I have recently started using the Gotham GAC-4/1 balanced cables from the same vendor, and am extremely impressed.
I paired them with some Belden 9497 speaker cables in my Accuphase/Tannoy system, replacing some cables costing many times more, with nothing but positive results.